i owned a savage model 110 in 7mm rem. mag. since 6 month but did not get the chance to shoot it in hunting situation. on target, it have good accuracy but it does have a big recoil. i changed the recoil pad but did not get the chance to shoot with it after. what do you think about muzzlebrake. is it a good investment or a no go. i won't take any decision before trying the new pad but i'm thinking about it.
muzzlebrake question
- Thread starter dr-snake
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They work well to reduce recoil, but do increase noise significantly. Not so bad for the shooter, very, very loud for people beside him on the firing line. - dan
I don`t own a 7mm rem mag but have shot 6 or 7 different ones sighting them in. If you need a muzzlebrake on one it is likely to much gun for the shooter. Just my opinion, and worth what you paid for it. Yes they work but at a price.
I would not use a muzzle brake on a hunting rifle myself. If you or you hunting partner(s) aren't wearing hearing protection when you shoot it, permanent hearing damage could be the result. That being said, you can remove many muzzle brakes for hunting, etc.
I agree, personally it would be a deal breaker, to buy, new or used, if it had a brake.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I was going to say that the 7mm magnum doesn't recoil enough for the brake to beneficial, and that what you need more trigger time to build up your tolerance to recoil. On reflection however, everyone is different and everyone responds to recoil differently. Therefore, anything you can do to make your rifle recoil less and become easier to shoot is beneficial to you. As you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of brakes as I find noise more disturbing then the bump on the shoulder, but that's me not you.
With respect to handling recoil though, ensure the fit is correct for you, most adults do well with a 13"-13.5" LOP. If you rifle doesn't have a good pad on it, get one installed. Ensure you are using a good shooting technique which will minimize recoil. The butt should be inboard on your shoulder in the natural pocket, and not out on your shoulder bone, or down on your arm. If you use a sling which makes it possible to sling up, this lock the rifle to you, will ensure there is sufficient butt to shoulder contact weight, and the recoil impulse is minimized as the rifle and your upper body have become a single unit.
Your scope should be mounted far enough away from your eye so you don't have to be afraid of getting hit by the ocular's rim, IMHO, many folks mount scopes with too much magnification too far behind the cocking piece of their hunting rifles. The flatter the rifle shoots, the more likely it is that it wears a powerful scope with critical eye relief.
With respect to handling recoil though, ensure the fit is correct for you, most adults do well with a 13"-13.5" LOP. If you rifle doesn't have a good pad on it, get one installed. Ensure you are using a good shooting technique which will minimize recoil. The butt should be inboard on your shoulder in the natural pocket, and not out on your shoulder bone, or down on your arm. If you use a sling which makes it possible to sling up, this lock the rifle to you, will ensure there is sufficient butt to shoulder contact weight, and the recoil impulse is minimized as the rifle and your upper body have become a single unit.
Your scope should be mounted far enough away from your eye so you don't have to be afraid of getting hit by the ocular's rim, IMHO, many folks mount scopes with too much magnification too far behind the cocking piece of their hunting rifles. The flatter the rifle shoots, the more likely it is that it wears a powerful scope with critical eye relief.
Your question - is it a good investment?
Nothing you spend on a rifle is a good investment. Rifles are not investments...
This thread will probably be filled with stories about how loud brakes are and your hearing will be damaged.
In reality it depends on the style of brake and where you are shooting it on how loud it will be to your ears... When shooting any centerfire with or without a brake - hearing may be damaged if you don't wear hearing protection.
So you should be wearing hearing protection... period.
Brakes on a firing line produce a real blast effect to everyone around the shooter and because of reflective conditions it will blast the shooter as well.
If you are standing out in the open shooting with a decent hunting brake (not a clam shell design) the shooter will not notice much if any difference in noise. Anyone beside him would.
Brakes reduce recoil tremendously.
That has been the experience of many.
Nothing you spend on a rifle is a good investment. Rifles are not investments...
This thread will probably be filled with stories about how loud brakes are and your hearing will be damaged.
In reality it depends on the style of brake and where you are shooting it on how loud it will be to your ears... When shooting any centerfire with or without a brake - hearing may be damaged if you don't wear hearing protection.
So you should be wearing hearing protection... period.
Brakes on a firing line produce a real blast effect to everyone around the shooter and because of reflective conditions it will blast the shooter as well.
If you are standing out in the open shooting with a decent hunting brake (not a clam shell design) the shooter will not notice much if any difference in noise. Anyone beside him would.
Brakes reduce recoil tremendously.
That has been the experience of many.
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- Haliburton County, Central Ontario
Just on a purely monetary note, and it has already been mentioned here, I would not personally buy a rifle, either new or used, with a muzzle brake on it. They are not politically correct on a firing line and why have one if you are just going to remove it to hunt. I believe also that the POI may well be different with/without the brake. JMHO.
People who go on and on about how loud a brake is would give you the impression that the gun was as quiet as a church mouse before.
A 7mm rem mag does not recoil any worse than a 30-06 or a 12 gauge shotgun.
I would say, invest the money you would spend on a brake in ammunition and practice.
For the really big guns, they are louder and punish the shoulder to the point where accurate shooting may be impossible. This is where a muzzle brake belongs. Once it has been installed, it is unlikely that you would ever remove it.
Oh Please. Spare us the sermon. People don't wear hearing protection when hunting, but then again, I'm sure you do. Every waking hour during hunting season. Either you don't hunt or your post is some sort of a joke.
Anyone want to volunteer to stand next to my SVT40 with muzzle break to test whether its louder than a rifle without a muzzle break?
I didn't think so.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I would! A pal of mine handed me his Brno 602 in .375 H&H and like a dummy I threw it up and fired before I remembered it had a damn brake on it. My ears hurt for hours and rang for days. The funny thing is the same thing happened to him when he shot at a polar bear from alongside the wall of his house, yet that stupid rifle still wears a brake. I'd have taken a chop saw to it! A brake has no place on a hunting rifle IMHO, but folks have to make their rifles shootable for themselves.
The first reply given, hit the nail on the head.
I had one put on my 308 Norma Mag so I could enjoy shooting the dang thing.
Jennings makes a brake that the holes angle forward so the blast isn't directly
out the side.
I used to take real caution at the range for fellow shooters.
Then I discovered the lead sled.
I don't need the brake on at the range any more.
For hunting, I don't give a chit, for one shot, let them ring.
This year I'll be using a different go to rifle.
Yep, the new to me BLR 81 in 358win.
I figure this bullet should be enough to knock down deer and moose.
If I plan on open country, then the braked ##### will be with me.
Jennings makes a brake that the holes angle forward so the blast isn't directly
out the side.
I used to take real caution at the range for fellow shooters.
Then I discovered the lead sled.
I don't need the brake on at the range any more.
For hunting, I don't give a chit, for one shot, let them ring.
This year I'll be using a different go to rifle.
Yep, the new to me BLR 81 in 358win.
I figure this bullet should be enough to knock down deer and moose.
If I plan on open country, then the braked ##### will be with me.
Oh Please. Spare us the sermon. People don't wear hearing protection when hunting, but then again, I'm sure you do. Every waking hour during hunting season. Either you don't hunt or your post is some sort of a joke.
Spare you own sermon - jerk it yourself.
I hunt, I have shot bare barrels, ported barrels, braked barrels with and without hearing protection.
I have been beside a bare barrel carbine and had my ears rung.
My point is the noise from a bare barrel may damage your hearing, so it you are so worried about it, wear hearing protection when you shoot... Period.
And more and more hunters do wear electronic muffs for hunting. To amplify what they wish to hear without any worry when shooting.
i have had brakes on rifles and there reputation comes from firing at the range under an enclosure. not nearly as bad in the open. at the range i go to my 375 sounds like a cannon. in the open no worse than any other rifle. brake design is a factor too. one of the worst i have witnessed was the abolt with factory brake. far worse the the aftermarket brakes i have tried. being to the side of a rifle braked or not is far worse than being behind it. if you hunt without hearing protection it will damage your hearing not mater 243 or 375.. i have documented high end hearing loss in my left ear, i'm right handed. the tec thats checked my hearing a few times told me i must shoot as this is very common pattern. i never shoot at the range without good protection.
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
No, this is where a WTS ad in the EE belongs. If it's too much for you to handle it, get rid of it and buy something else better suited to your recoil tolerance. Guys with braked rifles are trying to shoot something too powerful for them and are less likely to be able to shoot worth a damn because they haven't got the trigger time.
I think that the OP would be better served with a 270 than the 7RM from what he is saying. Muzzle brakes belong on rifles far away from where I'm hunting. I had a hunting partner shoot his braked 300WM while I was next to him and the noise caused real pain. I didn't liek brakes before, but now I really hate them.
