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I have been in contact with ASC on another dealing and they are more than willing to accomodate what I requested(another project that at this time cannot discuss..but soon).

I will give them a call on Mon. and pick their brain on this...hopefully they can approximate a cost for custom stamped/marked body. They are already screening the .223 and 7.62x39 mag bodies and seem senitive to our situation. A few states have a similar restriction on capacity like us so we are not the only market.
 
I have been in contact with ASC on another dealing and they are more than willing to accomodate what I requested(another project that at this time cannot discuss..but soon).

I will give them a call on Mon. and pick their brain on this...hopefully they can approximate a cost for custom stamped/marked body. They are already screening the .223 and 7.62x39 mag bodies and seem senitive to our situation. A few states have a similar restriction on capacity like us so we are not the only market.

Good points. And those US States that don't have magazine restrictions don't give a flying f*ck what is stamped/imprinted on the magazine body because it isn't relavent to them. Seems like an easy fix as far as I can see.
 
LOL! Yes, mechanical sense. Look at the 458 follower, look at a 5.56 follower, think about why the 5.56 has a bump on one side. You might get the first few to work, but towards the last few, the rounds would just spit out the top of the mag. Certainly the last two would not work.

So, no actual tests?

That's not particularly helpful.
 
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Production stamped .458 7 round mag. Wouldn't be too hard to pin to 5 which is about 15 rounds of .223

Or you can get the ones from AA marked .50 Beowulf and have even less hastle. I'm sure if you ordered 500 or so of them they would even stamp there 10 round mags "pistol only" for you
 
acrashb--is correct that the enhanced/dedicated .458 follower will do exactly what he described. however
There is no law against "upgradeing" your follower to a green,grey,or yellow follower that just happens to function both .458 and .223 as originally designed. If that is the case we got a lot of criminals useing a device that is contrary to the law as written.

The whole purpose of the design was to allow for the use of standard unaltered m16/ar15 mags. A sales pitch per-se..."increased firepower and you don't have to buy new mags, your current issue(___milion mags) will work" "Buy this upper and your good to go"

That being said the new .458 follower is an improvement but not a requirement.

rya --thanks for the link,I might follow that up as well
 
I have been in contact with ASC on another dealing and they are more than willing to accomodate what I requested(another project that at this time cannot discuss..but soon).

I will give them a call on Mon. and pick their brain on this...hopefully they can approximate a cost for custom stamped/marked body. They are already screening the .223 and 7.62x39 mag bodies and seem senitive to our situation. A few states have a similar restriction on capacity like us so we are not the only market.

Did anything positive come of this?
 
So does anyone besides Questar (who has none in stock) carry a 458 upper? Is there anyone in Canada that can get us brass if we do find one?
The more I read about it the more I want one. This would be the perfect round for hunting when they remove the restricted status from the AR platform:D

With regards to the follower debate, everything I've read so far says the biggest selling point of the 458 system is that it will work reliably with a completely unaltered AR15 .223 mag. So while there may be a dedicated follower it is definitely not required for the 458 to function.
But for the purposes of getting a 458 pistol stamped magazine it may be required to use a dedicated 458 follower to get that approved. In which case I think as acrashb says the .223 round would probably not function well with the 458 follower but as was also stated later, once you own it there is nothing stopping you from changing the follower to a .223 follower as long as it still won't hold more than 10 rounds of 458.
I do however think that if you were at the range and had your 458 pistol mag stuffed with however many .223 rounds would fit and an RCMP officer was at the range while you popped off 15-20 rounds out of your .223 you would probably get some unwanted attention and risk having things taken away and then having to fight in court to get them back.

Let all just find a way to fight to get the stupid mag limits removed so we don't have to worry about this loophole crap. There is no logical reason to limit the mag capacity for a legally owned and used rifle. If it did anything to stop a dirtbag criminal from using a 30 round mag then I would be in support of it but it only affects those that choose to follow the rules and unfortunately that's not the criminals.
Politicians and Anti's have never understood this concept and probably never will. They must think that once the rivet is installed it can never be removed and that no one would dare breaking the law by removing it, not even criminals.
It's just stupid.:slap:
 
What I have gotten from ASC at this time is: There needs to be an actual produced .458 pistol manufactured for them to mark a magazine "for use in the ________pistol". There are numerous liability issues in the USA in todays society that they just will not mark something willynilly fashion.

I am also chaseing the source for unmarked followers but a marked body of .458 mag.
we simply pin the .458mag to a legal 5rd with the unmarked follower and if 15rd of .223 just happen to fit :)

I agree with the previously mentioned....get rid of mag restrictions, but in the meantime which could be a long time we must work within the law as written.

Any Canadian manufactures listening ???? we really need a readilly available .458 pistol in Canada.
 
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