Value my AR please :)

Armalite in my opinion is not a brand that commands a premium resale price. I would not call it a bad brand, just a middle of the road gun.

You could end up getting a better price for it, however this might require a longer weight.
 
"The value of something is what someone else is willing to pay for it." There are no other factors that go into the equation.

Here in Canada an HK MP7 is "worth" $11,000 (or possibily more). A G36 or UMP $6,000-$8,000, etc.

If your rifle is truly as rare and desirous as you believe it to be, someone will be willing to pay you your price. If you are wrong, you will have to lower the price in order to sell the rifle, or accept the best offer that is made.

If you think your rifle is worth $2,000 or more. List it for that. You will have your answer in a month or less.
 
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How old do you suppose it is? I think my old armalite said AR-15 on the side, but I cant recall seeing an m15 before. (maybe they do...I didnt own it very long:redface:) Thats kind of unique, its almost a shame to put it on zombie watch really. Whats in it for a bolt carrier semi or full?
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It's a couple years now....it was the last of the 14.5's allowed into the country....I wasn't looking for one, but I posted a SXS shotgun in a thread and John saw it and needed it for his collection, so we traded.

Bolt carrier? No idea....It's litereeally been out of the box for 1/2 hour total, I never really paid much attention :)

USP said:
Armalite in my opinion is not a brand that commands a premium resale price. I would not call it a bad brand, just a middle of the road gun.

You could end up getting a better price for it, however this might require a longer weight.
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Ahhh....so we weren't talking about *this* M15A4, but all AR's in general. Got it.

I was looking for a *value* in the thread though....I appreciate you input of what *you* would pay, but it's kinda not what I was asking.

I wouldn't pay 125K for a Shelby Cobra, but it doesn't mean it's not valued at that ;)

Thanks for the input guys.

WW
 
Wrong Way said:
It's a couple years now....it was the last of the 14.5's allowed into the country....I wasn't looking for one, but I posted a SXS shotgun in a thread and John saw it and needed it for his collection, so we traded.

Bolt carrier? No idea....It's litereeally been out of the box for 1/2 hour total, I never really paid much attention :)




Ahhh....so we weren't talking about *this* M15A4, but all AR's in general. Got it.

I was looking for a *value* in the thread though....I appreciate you input of what *you* would pay, but it's kinda not what I was asking.

I wouldn't pay 125K for a Shelby Cobra, but it doesn't mean it's not valued at that ;)

Thanks for the input guys.

WW
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Its a nice rifle. But there are alot of reasons why its price is effected by it being an Armalite. For some the name isnt well known so that can be a minor negative. For others who know the brand well, thier past run (not the newer stuff) had a reputation for awhile of having poor quality control, that is also a minor negative. The twist rate compared to other options is typically considered old fashioned- not that theres anything wrong with it.

Part of the problem with the AR market is that we have had some much access to high end guns and recently low end guns, that I believe the guns in the middle from suppliers such as Armalite have had thier prices knocked down abit to reflect the supply of ARs overall.

You would get a good price for it from say somebody who wants an Armalite. Otherwise there is nothing particularily unique about the gun that would warrant a premium price.

It is nice and clean which might up it a few hundred at most, but at that point you are trying to sell what is in effect a used gun at prices higher than some new guns. That is why I said a lower price.

I personally would keep it, but thats just me.

Perhaps list it at $1400 and see if it moves.
 
You can ask what you want for it. If someone want to pay 2000$ for the gun perfect, but it can be very long. If you want to sell your AR15 don't ask more than an brand new LMT.


You can do what 80% on EE do and ask the same price as a new one lol
My 2 cents
 
Others have politely tried to tell you but you don't seem to get it. Armalite isn't considered high end, though they are a good brand. LMT is very much considered a top tier rifle and can be had for $1900 which includes the SOPMOD stock ($200 min), no one who knows ARs is going to pay more than $1500 for your rifle. If you got an offer of $1700 then I'd jump all over it.

Your Armalite is probably an HBAR, 1:9 twist, semi-auto carrier, all of these make it less desirable to most people, regardless of barrel length. You do know that 14.5" barrels are easily available from Canadian manufacturers for around $250 right?

You ask for opinions, then when you don't get the answer you want you try and make excuses. You obviously think you can get more than $1700, if you can then good for you but don't try and use the forum to try and justify your high price.

If this was 2006 then you could probably get closer to 2K but times have changed, we're able to get our hands on better stuff at better prices.
 
You obviously think you can get more than $1700
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Did you even READ post 11???

Don't put words in my mouth please. I never said it was worth 2k, I never even mentioned that number anywhere....in fact, I don't know where 2k even came from....?

My response was to those comparing the currently available 16" armalites to this rifle...full stop. The introduction of the LMTs into the thread was also redundant, as we were talking about Armalite 14.5s specifically. I know what's available from LMT, Stag, etc....but wasn't asking about them :)

I'm not arguing with anyone applying a number to it, and in fact I greatly appreciate the informed opinions pertaining to this specific rifle..... I'm disagreeing with people who use "well you can't get those, but ###x makes similar so yours is worth less" logic.

Are 14" 870p barrels worth less because norinco HP9 barrels are available? Nope. One just sold for 350 bucks. People who want a Rem barrel want a rem barrel.

Shouldnt springfield M14's be priced lower now that there are gobs of M305's avaialable?

Same logic :)

Oh yeah....and why exactly would you say "It's probably an HBAR" :confused: See, a person "who knows AR's" (as you put it) would likely ASK if it was an HBAR before applying a value, rather than basing their valuation on a "probably".....no?

And for the record, No, it's not an HBAR. (I thought that would be evident in the pics)

Regardless, I'm thinking of keeping it around anyway....I don't need the cash, and it's not like it's going to drop in value.

Thanks all :)

Leg said:
Others have politely tried to tell you but you don't seem to get it. Armalite isn't considered high end, though they are a good brand. LMT is very much considered a top tier rifle and can be had for $1900 which includes the SOPMOD stock ($200 min), no one who knows ARs is going to pay more than $1500 for your rifle. If you got an offer of $1700 then I'd jump all over it.

Your Armalite is probably an HBAR, 1:9 twist, semi-auto carrier, all of these make it less desirable to most people, regardless of barrel length. You do know that 14.5" barrels are easily available from Canadian manufacturers for around $250 right?

You ask for opinions, then when you don't get the answer you want you try and make excuses. You obviously think you can get more than $1700, if you can then good for you but don't try and use the forum to try and justify your high price.

If this was 2006 then you could probably get closer to 2K but times have changed, we're able to get our hands on better stuff at better prices.
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I think it's great you got an offer of $1700 on it. I have a very similar rifle (14.5' Armalite upper with gov profile on Eagle arms lower) and it's good to see them valued higher than I paid for mine even though I have no plans of selling it.
I am an Armalite fan and am not really sure why people wouldn't like the brand or would not be familiar with it. Didn't Stoner worked for Armalite during the early days of the AR? They have been making them longer than most companies. Who would know the rifle better than one of the original manufacturers?
I know there are other brands out there that go "MILSPEC" but that doesn't actually make them better rifles it only means they do alot more quality testing before they let them out of the shop in order to have the military consider them for duty.
For civilian use any AR built today is all we will ever need (Maybe not the ones made in China).

Anyway. I would personally value your gun around $1500 and if you got an offer for $1700 I would take it. That sounds more than fair.

Good luck
 
Ok, you're right, I should have asked if it was an HBAR. Pictures are useless in determining that though since HBARs are only heavy under the handguards, you'd know that if you were into ARs;). So, I'll ask, how thick is the barrel under the handguards?

People mention the other brands because they're considered more desirable and there is a comparison to be made. If I can get what is perceived to be a better rifle for a comparable price why on earth would I go for the lesser rifle. Let's look at the numbers, you have a used Armalite with 14.5" 1/9 barrel, plain M4 style stock, hopefully with mil diameter buffer tube. The LMT offering comes with 14.5" 1/7 (read, more desirable), SOPMOD stock. If we were to buy the LMT and sell off the SOPMOD for $200 then you would have paid $1700 for a new rifle. Why would I give you the same amount for a used rifle with less desirable features?

The 2K figure was mine and if you bothered to read that sentence you'd see that you probably could have gotten close to that figure in 2006 when barrels under 16" were hard to come by.

Honestly, if someone offered you $1700 then you should jump all over it.
 
Leg said:
Ok, you're right, I should have asked if it was an HBAR. Pictures are useless in determining that though since HBARs are only heavy under the handguards, you'd know that if you were into ARs;). So, I'll ask, how thick is the barrel under the handguards?

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As I said, I thought the pics would tell you. Forgive the #### out of me for not knowing as much as an expert such as yourself.

Although....If you were in to AR's ;), you'd know that since my gun is clearly stated as NOT being an HBAR, then you'd know it would be an M4 profile....no?
 
Wrong Way said:
As I said, I thought the pics would tell you. Forgive the f**k out of me for not knowing as much as an expert such as yourself.

Although....If you were in to AR's ;), you'd know that since my gun is clearly stated as NOT being an HBAR, then you'd know it would be an M4 profile....no?
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Ok, one last post and besides what you may think I'm not trying to be a ####. You've said from the photos that it should be completely obvious that it's not an HBAR. I replied that HBAR's are only heavy under the handguards so the photos provided won't tell me. You say that it's not so I'll take your word but the fact that you think the photos prove conclusively that it's not leads me to believe that you don't know what an HBAR is in relation to the AR15 platform. Give us some photos without the handguards and we'll know for sure.

When people refer to M4 profile they're normally referring to the fact that it has the M203 cutouts. People will use government, SOCOM, medium or HBAR to describe the profile under the handguards. I've re-read all of your posts and while perhaps I've missed it, I don't see anything that describes the barrel contour other than 14.5" M4.

ETA: To 50calshooter, I don't see where the OP described it as a gov't profile.
 
Leg said:
Ok, one last post and besides what you may think I'm not trying to be a ####. You've said from the photos that it should be completely obvious that it's not an HBAR. .
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Again...I said no such thing. What I said was (direct quote):
(I thought that would be evident in the pics)
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Thought....as in not sure...as in the complete opposite of what you said I posted.

You say that it's not so I'll take your word but the fact that you think the photos prove conclusively that it's not leads me to believe that you don't know what an HBAR is in relation to the AR15 platform. Give us some photos without the handguards and we'll know for sure.
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I may not be an expert...but even a complete idiot can google image the barrel profiles and figure out what it is. Also the fact that the preban 14" M15A4 only came with a government profile barrel might be an indicator ;)

But hey, just for you I'll snap off the handguards and take a pic.
 
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