Ross Seyfried on hunting cartridges.
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- Location
- Nova Scotia
Well constructed bullet. Why not. There are many to choose from in all adequate calibers for game sought.
Precise placement and perfect angle,.... or no shot,....well,..... we will leave that to the people who get payed to hunt. Time is on their side.
I lose pay while I'm hunting, and have a lottery draw, and I'm taking the Bull moose, that I only get to hunt once maybe in a lifetime, where he stands. My cartridge of choice being the 7mmRemington Magnum, with a heavily constructd bullet at XB70 velocities
, and my fantabulous field marksmanship(wears ear plugs so i don't flinch and drop my rifle from the thunderous report and howitzer type recoil) will probaly do it out to 400yds 98.7%, where a well placed low recoiling, highly efficient .30/30, might leave me wasting my week off work, looking for a wounded animal. It's an awful feeling to wait for years, train hard, put alot of body and mind into preparation,....and then f**k up your moment of glory,by taking a knife to a gunfight.
Oh well,....the crows and coyotes got to eat too.
Precise placement and perfect angle,.... or no shot,....well,..... we will leave that to the people who get payed to hunt. Time is on their side.
I lose pay while I'm hunting, and have a lottery draw, and I'm taking the Bull moose, that I only get to hunt once maybe in a lifetime, where he stands. My cartridge of choice being the 7mmRemington Magnum, with a heavily constructd bullet at XB70 velocities
, and my fantabulous field marksmanship(wears ear plugs so i don't flinch and drop my rifle from the thunderous report and howitzer type recoil) will probaly do it out to 400yds 98.7%, where a well placed low recoiling, highly efficient .30/30, might leave me wasting my week off work, looking for a wounded animal. It's an awful feeling to wait for years, train hard, put alot of body and mind into preparation,....and then f**k up your moment of glory,by taking a knife to a gunfight.Oh well,....the crows and coyotes got to eat too.
I had a very high regard for his opinions for many years until when he was contributing articles to two different publications at the same time he happened to contradict himself, not once but a few times.
Personally I prefer John Barsness, Phil Shoemaker, etc.
Sorry for the hi-jack..
Personally I prefer John Barsness, Phil Shoemaker, etc.
Sorry for the hi-jack..
Well constructed bullet. Why not. There are many to choose from in all adequate calibers for game sought.
Precise placement and perfect angle,.... or no shot,....well,..... we will leave that to the people who get payed to hunt. Time is on their side.
I lose pay while I'm hunting, and have a lottery draw, and I'm taking the Bull moose, that I only get to hunt once maybe in a lifetime, where he stands. My cartridge of choice being the 7mmRemington Magnum, with a heavily constructd bullet at XB70 velocities
Oh well,....the crows and coyotes got to eat too.
This doesn't really fit with what Seyfried said at all. His message was to avoid what would be excessive beyond the capability and recoil tolerance of the hunter. In the context of the article the 7mm Remington Magnum would be a reasonable choice for moose hunting.
- Location
- Haliburton County, Central Ontario
His first paragraph is a contradiction to the body of the article when he states "The headstamp on the case certainly does not matter", then goes on to explain in detail exactly why it does. Otherwise, an interesting article.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
His assertion that small bullets kill better than large bullets if the small ones are well designed, needs a bit of modification to suit me.
I see it as small bullets must be designed well, and cost a bunch to kill AS WELL as large ones.
I see it as small bullets must be designed well, and cost a bunch to kill AS WELL as large ones.
Seyfried recommended the .270 as an example of a modest cartridge that performs well. He also recognizes that there are many others that will also work well. I have a .270 Winchester that is fast and accurate with 150 grain Nosler Partitions. I could hunt almost anything my whole life with it and not feel undergunned. However, this is also true of my .30-06. It is also true of my .45/70 within the ranges I can manage its trajectory, and so on. Well constructed and properly placed bullets kill stuff dead.
I remember when I first bought my 35 Whelen. It seemed kind of obnoxious in the recoil department. Fortunately I kept practicing and got to be perfectly comfortable with it and shot it well. By contrast a .270 will be easier to master and with good bullets it will work very well on large animals, not just deer.
I remember when I first bought my 35 Whelen. It seemed kind of obnoxious in the recoil department. Fortunately I kept practicing and got to be perfectly comfortable with it and shot it well. By contrast a .270 will be easier to master and with good bullets it will work very well on large animals, not just deer.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
This from a guy who championed the .300 H&H, the .340 Weatherby, then later the .338-378, the .416 Rigby and the .416 Remington. Seems as though Ross's tolerance for recoil has declined in his golden years. His childhood mentor Elmer Keith is turning in his grave. All in all, its pretty good advise though.
The reason so many gun writers contradict themselves in various articles is that you can't sell the same article over and over. You have to come up with a new "angle" for an article to get an editor's attention. If you write for years, you will eventually have to contradict opinions you expressed earlier in your career, or you will have little to say for which you can be paid.
I see this as the reason he dislikes larger capacity cartridges most people buy them without learning how to shoot first and working their way up in the recoil levels.
I see it as all cartridges have their place if you can shoot the higher performance cartridges proficiently use them if you can't don't.
My hunting cartridges go from 6.8SPC to 3575RUM to 45-70 they all have their place and I'd bet Siegfreid witnessed shooters/hunters that were not even proficient with their 270's...
Seyfried has a very respectable resume and I believe that article states a lot of common sense.
In short, he says use a firearm you aren't scared of that fits you well and is of the largest caliber that you can shoot well with bullets that perform well. I agree with that.
If its a 25-06 great, shoot quaity bullets. If its a .375 H&H shoot quality bullets. Make sure you hit them in the front half. Done.
In short, he says use a firearm you aren't scared of that fits you well and is of the largest caliber that you can shoot well with bullets that perform well. I agree with that.
If its a 25-06 great, shoot quaity bullets. If its a .375 H&H shoot quality bullets. Make sure you hit them in the front half. Done.
I know, he also views the 30.06 as too boring to own himself, but admits that if one was to own only one gun, it could be a pre 64 M70 in 30.06.
He considers the .375 HH "neither fish nor foul", and likes the 30 cals. at "the magical speed" of 3000fps...a big fan of the 300 weatherby.
I remember reading about his cape buffalo hunt using a hot loaded 45 colt handgun, very interesting guy.
I've always enjoyed his articles, he has much experience to back up what he writes.
Keep in mind that the title is Choosing YOUR Ideal Hunting Cartridge. He is talking about the average Joe. Have you been to the range lately? Have you seen how the average Joe shoots?
He may have come to the realization that some people simply cannot, and will never be able to, handle some of the chamberings he admires.
