M14 First Impressions and shoot - update post 92 - Finally Finished!

ArtyMan

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Hey guys,

For quite a while I have been toying with the idea of picking up a Norinco M14. Being ignorant initially of Norinco quality after reading and hearing of numerous issues, I decided to "bite the bullet" sort of speak and pick one up for myself - I am very happy I did. I have always wanted a "classic" M14 but the work of sourcing USGI stocks/parts etc... seemed to be more trouble then it was worth.

I have fired M14 style rifles in the past, one or two Springfields and I have looked at the Norcs in the gunshop etc... but am still fairly new to the M14 series of rifle. The stickies at the top of the forum are a great resource! :cheers:

I picked up this particular rifle used off of the EE, with it came:
USGI walnut stock
USGI upper handguard
USGI oprod spring
USGI oprod spring guide
M1 sights
USGI EIS - cleaning kit/sling etc...

Rifle

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After going over the rifle as best I could and tightening up the handguard with my quick fix of cardboard and cement I was ready to go. I have done nothing else to the rifle.

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I did some reading and loaded up some .308 with varying powder charges. I have read that the M14 rifles are very picky in regards to powder weights and bullet selection. After reading the article at m14.ca I decided to use IMR4895 with Hornady 168 gr .308 HPBT bullets.

I worked up my load starting with 40gr of IMR4895 powder progressing up to 42.5gr of powder.

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OAL was the same as Prvi factory stuff, able to fit/feed from the magazine without issues.

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After pressing up my ammunition and checking my rifle it was time to hit the range!

All shooting was done off a rest at 50m in order to find the "sweet spot" of my rifle, aswell as the zero the rifle with as little chance of shooter error as possible. I opted to shoot at 50m instead of my usual 100m to reduce the risk of "lost" rounds as I was short on both time and ammo.

It was a beautiful day today, around 15 degrees with 0 wind.

After firing two quick factory rounds to find a rough zero. I brough the sight 3 clicks to the left and kept the elevation at 8 clicks up from the bottom. The M1 sights are a great advantage on this rifle, the fully adjustable and very positive clicks. The trigger pull is also fantastic, a really crisp 2 stage trigger finishes off the rifle nicely. Im not sure if the trigger has had any work done to it prior to my owning it.

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I fired a series of groups on varying targets, each target being for a corresponding powder charge. The rifle fired perfectly with 0 issues to feed/extract. All casings were thrown about 3 feet to the right and a foot forward.

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After working up the load, I have determined my optimum load!!!! 3 round grouping in one ragged hole. Granted its 50m but I am positive the rifle is a shooter! :D

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last two rounds of that charge left in my box

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Most groups with the 42gr charge sat in and around the .5-.75 inch mark at 50m. Hopefully this was stay true at the 100m with 1-1.25inch groups. Time will tell. I am a convert to the Norinco firearms I must say, any ignorance or snobbery towards these rifles should be quashed after shooting one! As Hungry says dont buy one, buy two :D

With my other Vietnam style retro rifle - The Colt AR

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Thanks for reading! Any and all questions/comments appreciated!

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Great looking rifle. That USGI walnut really brings the looks up a notch in my opinion.

Did you chrony that load or have details on MV for 42grs 4895 behind 168gr?

2450 ish?
 
Great looking rifle. That USGI walnut really brings the looks up a notch in my opinion.

Did you chrony that load or have details on MV for 42grs 4895 behind 168gr?

2450 ish?

I dont have a chrony so I havent done a proper test, but according to Lymans 49th edition the muzzle velocity should be in the range of 2500ish fps. Its a really rough guess.
 
What an awesome report. Glad that you are getting all kinds of positive results. What is neat is how any newbie here will feel comfortable with your report and hopefully will be encouraged to venture into the $ 400ish M14 addiction. :D

Gotta love that old school Vietnam style M16 wannabee AR15!

Cheers,
Barney
 
What an awesome report. Glad that you are getting all kinds of positive results. What is neat is how any newbie here will feel comfortable with your report and hopefully will be encouraged to venture into the $ 400ish M14 addiction. :D

Gotta love that old school Vietnam style M16 wannabee AR15!

Cheers,
Barney

Thanks! :cheers:

I have to admit with all of the myths and ramblings surrounding these rifles (slam fires, headspace issues, barrels flying off, d!cks falling off :p) I was really put off picking one up. I am very, very happy I decided to give these a second look! If I am off this spring/summer I will definitely be at one of your clinics (Pet).

And yea I really like my retro AR aswell, closest I can come to a 1960's era M16A1.
 
Please don't it, looking at your groups with irons, right on but to quote another member on here, remember this is a battle rifle and not a tack driver.
Keep the irons hot.
Cheers and good shooting :D

You may be right, it may not even warrant a scope.
 
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