UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

Foxer said:
Amusingly, i have now ordered or aquired 3 options, and i'm trying to decide which one to go with :)

I think i've settled on trying a tang sight on it - specifically the improved tang from marble arms, as seen on this gun:

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You can get a short post which is perfect for the rossi's, they specifically sell a model for the rossi 92.

The issue with the rossi is the sights are too close to the front for the post that is provided. Moving it back makes a big difference. So - while there ARE other options i'm choosing to move it back and i'll be able to go as low as i need, and i won't need to go so low.

I like the improved tang because it has very precise windage and elevation adjustments. it's extremely accurate. And you can take the screw in eyepiece out. It comes with three i believe - use the smallest to sight in for maximum accuracy, and then in the woods if you like you can screw it out for a real 'ghost ring' effect for fast target acquisition and still have good accuracy.

It still unfortunately requires a little gunsmithing to put in the second screw hole, but less than the williams sight i have. Looks bad-ass old school too :) Also folds down out of the way for storage, so it won't be resting against the wall of your gun safe.
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I cant wait to see how this works with the Ranch Hand!!!!! Please keep us updated.

BTW, this is my first post here and although I live in Oregon, I hope it is OK that I post on this forum (both my parents were born and raised in Canada...does that count?:D)

I have read this thread from the first post to the last and am SOOO excited to get my RH. I have one on lay-away in .45 colt. It is interesting that Rossi let so many out the factory doors with this sights issue. I will let you know when I pick mine up next month how the POA/POI is with this newest batch. I really, really like the Improved Tang sight from Marble Arms.

This has been a great read.

Chris
 
Hi Chris,

Welcome ... glad to have you.

Driller, my Ranch Hand fits perfectly into the side pocket of a high-quality (but surprisingly inexpensive @ $60) fly-fishing daypack from the high-end Sage company. The pocket is for carrying the short cases for the take-down flyrods.

If I need it really handy and I want to have my hands free and I'm not being super physical, I've found that I can just tuck it into a small loop of climbing-webbing (with a quick-release buckle) on my Uncle Mike's belt.

I'm now waiting (with some excitement) to hear if Gary's gunsmith has tried/tested the two sighting options that I sent to him with my rifle ... a higher Steve's Gunz fiber-optic with either the Steve's Gunz low rear flat-top, or the Skinner's Sights rear peep.
 
Foxer said:
Well there's not much to tell bud - it goes on the metal tang of your gun as you can see from the pics above. The rossi's we have need a second hole drilled - very cheap from any decent gunsmith. You buy the sight and it comes with a 'post' - that's the little upright thing that holds the peep hole. The posts come in 3 lengths, short medium and long. Short is for 0 - 200 yards, medium is for 200 - something like 600, and long is for some insane distance i can't remember.

You can swap out posts very easily and still retain zero when you put them back.

The sight folds down towards the stock so that it doesn't hit anything when you put it away. Then flip it right back up for use when you take the gun out.

At the top of the post is a small threaded hole. You screw in 'peeps' to it - the peeps have holes in them for you to look thru (like a small ghost ring). The smaller the hole, the greater the accuracy but the harder it is to acquire the target. So - you sight in with the smallest peep, then switch to a larger one for hunting or animal defense. Or just screw the peep out and use the round threaded hole like a ghost ring.

Because it sits so far back and isnt' mounted to the barrel, it's quite easy to get the lower sight picture you want with the small post. It solves the problem two ways - lowering the sight and moving it back.

The marble arms IMPROVED tang (not the original, but the improved) has 1/4 inch clicks for windange and you turn the center post for elevation. It is very precise, as much as a rifle scope. This allows extreme precision, probably better than you'll be able to shoot with the ranch hand.

This (and systems like it) was what was used in the old cowboy days for long range precision shooting, and it WORKS. It is a very effective system and still in use today by many cowboy action shooters for long range precision matches.

Like i said, it folds back to lay against the stock so it's out of the way when packed or in the gun safe. You just 'flick' it foward to use it.

I was hoping for a non-gun-smith solution, but i think over all this will be the best choice and it's still in keeping with the old-school look and feel of the ranch hand. I will likely get a fibre optic front sight to go with it, just because i'm thinking of using the gun for hunting and low-light bear defense situations. But i suspect this will work with the factory supplied post.

You will have to remove the rear barrel sight of course. You can get a plug to go in it's place so the barrel looks normal.

That's about all there is to it. It mounts on the metal tang using the existing hole and one new one drilled by a gunsmith - it comes with longer screws to go in to hold it in place. It's a very fast install, and probably very cheap from your local smith. They sell for about 125 bucks. a little pricier that some options but i'll spend it to get fully adjustable 1/4 click optics that will provide for effective accuracy. I still believe with the right single point sling and good optics the gun should shoot out to 100 yards with very good accuracy.
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your welcome, :slap: LOL

and as I discussed with Foxer on the phone I have a late 1890s winchester with a tang sight and its fine to shoot with it upright, not sure how it will play out on the ranch hands but hey gotta try it, now to find a 24" octagon barreled lever gun to put Creedmoor sights on ;)
 
driller212 said:
well carverk sounds like you got the one ranch hand that will hit where it is aimed haha, you lucky sumbeech!

I am loving the 44 mag, just got my 300gr hard casts from bullet barn, and I will have some rounds loaded up as soon as my arms heal up and I can use em again.

I am looking forward to seeing how well it does this summer in the bush. I have a feeling the holster might get uncomfortable quickly, I may just strap it to my pack.
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I also think a holster may get uncomfortable pretty quick. I have tried single point slings and they don't work for me. So I am thinking that a back pack type holster might be ideal.

http://blog.beezcombatsystems.com/short-barrel-scabbard
 
I would be very interested in taking one of these in 44 as well.please let me know what steps I need to take next. Thanks
 
Triple K lever-action scabbard

Cabelas has these on-sale right now for $70.00 ... a huge deal in my opinion. My friend has one for his Guide Gun, and it is made of solid, thick leather ... with heavy duty stitching and solid brass hardware.

htt p://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=706728&destination=/catalog/product.jsp%3FproductId%3D706728&categoryIds=104792580|104713380|104283180|&displayTab=QandA

Total length is 30" and I'm wondering if it would work well with my Ranch Hand. Unfortunately, the RH is getting tuned-up right now so I can't give it a try.

Has anybody else bought one for this purpose?

Price on the Triple K website is $110

ht tp://www.triplek.com/Products/id/38/grp/65/prd/109/
 
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Gotrek said:
6$ off regular price :)
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I'm aware of that. But I've held that scabbard and examined it closely, and it's obvious that the regular price is itself one helluva deal. The sale price (although it's just a modest 8% reduction) is simply the icing on the cake. :)
 
Total length is 30" and I'm wondering if it would work well with my Ranch Hand. Unfortunately, the RH is getting tuned-up right now so I can't give it a try.
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i'm thinking no. I've got something similar and the loop wont fit inside very well. And as the scabbard is a good 6 inches longer than the gun, you'd have a heck of a time pulling it out.

They make scabbards for the mare's leg, i'd spend a couple bucks more and do it right or not bother.
 
Foxer,

Yes ... I understand ... might as well get everything as optimum as possible.

But that is such a huge chunk of sweet-smelling lovingly-sewn leather that ... I'll wait until my little rifle gets back from the shop.

There may be about six-inches (un-needed) of length at the front-end of the scabbard ... but I'm sure that I could find something to store in that spot.

And ... it's dual purpose if you already have a small rifle.
 
But that is such a huge chunk of sweet-smelling lovingly-sewn leather that ... I'll wait until my little rifle gets back from the shop.

There may be about six-inches (un-needed) of length at the front-end of the scabbard ... but I'm sure that I could find something to store in that spot.
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Haha - well sometimes something just grabs you and you wind up figuring how to put sleeves on the vest rather than buying a jacket :) I would imagine a decent little shooting blanket or the like would fit in the bottom nicely and take up that bit of space.
 
I'll post the results after I get my little Rossi back from the gunsmith. I already do have a great little case for it ... the $49 "Flat Takedown Case" that I bought from Skinner's Sights ...

h ttp://www.skinnersights.com/scabbards_20.html

It was originally designed for take-down lever rifles, but is perfect for the Ranch Hand. I like the minimalist design, and it's a discreet way to carry the firearm. I asked them to make one slightly longer (about an inch) than the standard 24" model ... to ensure that the 24" rifle would fit inside perfectly.
 
I am getting out of camp this week so I can get in on sum of the fun
time to look for sum bulk 44mag,357/38 ,and a #### lode of 22
 
I can save you some time carverk. for 44 mag, there is no bulk out there right now as brass is scarce for reloading companies. The cheapest 44 mag I can find is here :

http://www.budgetshootersupply.ca/frame.cfm?ItemID=434&CategoryID=5

I am getting into reloading so I can make my own stuff though, that way you can have 300-325gr hard cast hot loads if you want em.

lots of 38 special bulk for cheap out there though, I am thinking of getting a lever in .357/38 just for that reason.
 
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