Korth Group Very poor to deal with

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Franchises exclusive distribution costs the Canadian entity money.
Why is it that Macdonalds can charge a million dollars for a franchise in canada, Toys are us can get $400,000.

why is a toy at ToysR Us $29. in the US and $49 in Canada. Because along with the fees they paid to get the franchise exclusive distribution they are also required to incur major expenses and recover them over time.

Monopoly is a game played for entertainment, business is designed for profits and exclusive distribution or franchises cost money.
Wanting to have your cake and eat it too is a pipe dream, taking the bull by the horns and investing in a Canadian business with your own money and risk is quite another. Leupold USA apparently likes the arrangement of having one licenced importer in Canada doing the job rather than each dealer having to import their own products or they wouldn't have continued the relationship with Korth for so many years.
if the US businesses have expenses as well as lower utility costs and taxes and BP is circumventing the canadian distribution network why are they not undercutting Authorized Canadian Dealers by hundreds of dollars per scope and passing the apparent savings on to canadian consumers? Because they to have brokerage fees, canadian investments to be recovered as well as wanting a profit. So with no warrenty in Canada from unauthorized dealers and the scope costing the same who is ripping who off??

US companies also should have better buying power as Leupold probably sells more scopes in Texas in a year than to the whole of Canada. That is a little business dynamic known as population density. Where are these savings being passed on to consumers?? BP should be matching all US sales price points in Canada.
 
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I think this threads gone a little off topic. While Korth has multiple examples of good service, they have also got many examples of the other end of the spectrum. Meh
 
Yep,

Ya gotta watch Korth...The last two dealings I have had with them have went a little sideways. Both times I sent in a scope to have a turret installed (non custom standard MOA CDS and an non custom MOA M1) and was charged for a custom turret as well. So, $116.99 for the install (which comes with a standard MOA turret) and $49.00 for a custom turret...

Took over a week of trying to get ahold of them to get it sorted out.


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Franchises exclusive distribution costs the Canadian entity money.
Why is it that Macdonalds can charge a million dollars for a franchise in canada, Toys are us can get $400,000.

why is a toy at ToysR Us $29. in the US and $49 in Canada. Because along with the fees they paid to get the franchise exclusive distribution they are also required to incur major expenses and recover them over time.

Monopoly is a game played for entertainment, business is designed for profits and exclusive distribution or franchises cost money.
Wanting to have your cake and eat it too is a pipe dream, taking the bull by the horns and investing in a Canadian business with your own money and risk is quite another. Leupold USA apparently likes the arrangement of having one licenced importer in Canada doing the job rather than each dealer having to import their own products or they wouldn't have continued the relationship with Korth for so many years.
if the US businesses have expenses as well as lower utility costs and taxes and BP is circumventing the canadian distribution network why are they not undercutting Authorized Canadian Dealers by hundreds of dollars per scope and passing the apparent savings on to canadian consumers? Because they to have brokerage fees, canadian investments to be recovered as well as wanting a profit. So with no warrenty in Canada from unauthorized dealers and the scope costing the same who is ripping who off??

US companies also should have better buying power as Leupold probably sells more scopes in Texas in a year than to the whole of Canada. That is a little business dynamic known as population density. Where are these savings being passed on to consumers?? BP should be matching all US sales price points in Canada.
This isn't a franchise, it's a distribution network...
 
I read too many of these less than happy dealings to
ignore them when I shop, especially when paying a premium
for the brand. Yes I own a Leupold that was a gift. Good
scope, expensive compared to other options. When I needed
warrantee on another brand optic a new one was on it's
way after an email. Therefore my personal experience
leads me away from another Leupold.
 
When I can finally get the spelling of their name right, I may consider their
fillet offerings.
Hopefully by then they will have their staff issue sorted out.
Leopuld.......Leupold.........Looeypulled...........meh.....for now.
 
Korth industries / leupold service

V:I: I don't usually participate in these discussions but in the interests of perspective & fairness will do so on this occasion!

Comments from 'Knotty' the OP refer: On a personal note. I too just ordered a custom dial for a Leupold scope. In response to my request for info I rec'd a return Email from Korth, within ONE Day, asking all the necessary questions about the make/model/turret design etc for my dial. I provided the necessary answers, and within the week, the dial arrived at my door. The dial is correct in every fashion and is professionally done!! I intend to, and will order more such dials for other rifle/scope combinations.

I found the 'entire experience' with Korth to be quick, efficient and professional. I have yet to experience the need for warranty or service work on a leupold scope (and I have over 50 of them on cal's up to and including my 585 Nyati) If I ever do need such service I will have no hesitation in using Korth to provide it.

Much of the other dialogue in this thread I suggest is akin to the 'Dodge/Ford/Chevy debate!..Leupold vs Nightforce vs Bushnell..blah blah and Blah! (Dodge is the Best by the way :dancingbanana:)

By the way..using the Vehicle analogy again...I have seen auto dealers selling veh's on their Canadian lots that they have 'acquired' directly from the US. They are sold with the 'Caveat' that 'THERE IS NO WARRANTY' as it entered the country other than through the established protocols in the auto industry. Its life people..get over it!! :ang
 
Just to comment on the vehicle analogy...I just imported a motorcycle from the US.

The 2 year warranty is good here as well. I can take it to any dealer in North America, or, if I break down, call them, and get a flatdeck to take me to the closest dealer in North America.

So not every product has a warranty that stops at a line on a map...not even vehicles.
 
It's obviously worth the gamble you may be taking if you are exporting them from the States without the proper paperwork,which is of course a violation of US law. Mur
 
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I bought a used scope from someone on here on the E&E, it didn't click when I turned the turrets. I sent it in and got a brand new one back in maybe 6 weeks with no problems, no questions, no receipt or anything. Just my experience with them.
 
Just to comment on the vehicle analogy...I just imported a motorcycle from the US.

The 2 year warranty is good here as well. I can take it to any dealer in North America, or, if I break down, call them, and get a flatdeck to take me to the closest dealer in North America.

So not every product has a warranty that stops at a line on a map...not even vehicles.

I know people that bought a Nissan in teh States and got told - no warranty if you take it North of the 49th. The company can set whatever rules they'd like. If consumers don't lke the rules then they have to shop elsewhere.

I had ATRS order me a scope through Korth a number of years ago (2006). Had it extremely fast and with no hassles. When I was in the market for a Mark 4, Rick again drove down the road to Korth and picked one up for me, sans problems.

As to all the #####ing about the added cost. It's always cost more up here. I don't know why but that's life. If you don't want to pay the asking price then buy another product. I like Leupold products, I've had good service from Korth so I'll keep buying Leupolds. Rather than than being forced to buy a Bushnell and having to delude myself into believing that it's a comparable product.
 
As to all the #####ing about the added cost. It's always cost more up here. I don't know why but that's life. If you don't want to pay the asking price then buy another product.

Yup. Gas is $1/gallon cheaper and booze is $40/gallon cheaper in the US, but nobody #####es about it...:D
 
I know people that bought a Nissan in teh States and got told - no warranty if you take it North of the 49th. The company can set whatever rules they'd like. If consumers don't lke the rules then they have to shop elsewhere.

I had ATRS order me a scope through Korth a number of years ago (2006). Had it extremely fast and with no hassles. When I was in the market for a Mark 4, Rick again drove down the road to Korth and picked one up for me, sans problems.

As to all the #####ing about the added cost. It's always cost more up here. I don't know why but that's life. If you don't want to pay the asking price then buy another product. I like Leupold products, I've had good service from Korth so I'll keep buying Leupolds. Rather than than being forced to buy a Bushnell and having to delude myself into believing that it's a comparable product.

Definitely agree with the bolded part...if you want to pay the extra for the warranty stuff, then you should. If you don't, you shouldn't.

So if you wreck a leupold from Bass Pro, then what? You take it back to Bass Pro and wait a few extra months?

If that's the case, then the choice is simple...you decide what the turnaround time of Korth is worth to you. If it's worth the premium, awesome. If not, Bass Pro is easy to find.
 
Too bad it's always nice to hear both sides of a story.

Korth has a stellar reputation but no ones perfect.

3 sides to every story, but I'm sure he has better things to do than come into a mud slinging thread. He doesn't own Korth's, just does the scope repair...


Can you legally buy leupold scopes in the US ?

Yes, if you obtain the import certificate and the seller gets the proper export permits...

Also, there are other dealers in Canada that import scopes without the Canadian distributor. That's how the warranty issue came about.
 
. Leupold USA apparently likes the arrangement of having one licenced importer in Canada doing the job rather than each dealer having to import their own products or they wouldn't have continued the relationship with Korth for so many years.
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This is an assumption.


Korth used to have a stellar reputation when the founder was running it. Now that it has changed hands the service is very inconsistent. I have had great service and friends have had terrible service. I don't believe they will be the exclusive distributor for ever.
 
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