just get one of the airsoft copys. they are metal under $100 and you can mount some of them to the picatinny rail. no need to bother with the barrel mount. they make a short one too like the ones our troops had in afghanistan.
M203 on Norc 14.5"er
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There are many genuine M203's in Canada, regardless of maker - it isn't that long since the US started to enforce ITAR. In fact, I was a member of this board BEFORE the US started to enforce ITAR (2007). Prior to that the US wasn't really bothered about where surplus launchers ended up, neither was almost any government selling surplus, since everything but training ammo is closely controlled, it was no big deal. Just as fired LAWS tubes were no big deal, and old 3.5 inch launchers were no big deal. So the question remains, the Norc barrel is step cut will it take a US M203 launcher without modification.
Try importing one and let us know how it goes for you. Wether they were ever available is moot point if I was incorrect. The OP isn't concerned about what has or has not happend in the past. His reality is in the present.
I knew IDF Colts were imported and others from other nations. Who was importing them directly from the US? When were they doing do?
Speak of the devil...
http://www.collectorssource.com/rifles/us-colt-m203-40mm-grenade-launcher.html
http://www.collectorssource.com/rifles/us-colt-m203-40mm-grenade-launcher.html
Other than a little wear on the finish, it looks pretty damn good. An LMT unit wouldn't be any better, just different markings.
I remember when an importer was bringing them in by the pound and being sold for $500, here in Canada.
Funny thing is, we have had 40mm grenade launchers in Canada at least since the early 80's. And other than the odd anecdotal tale of "the bikers have them", there hasn't been a rash of 7-11 grenadier drive-bys as of late.
And BTW, a 40mm receiver is not considered a DD until it has a rifled barrel attached. Until then, it is considered a Title 1 firearm. Therefore if a smooth bore barrel is installed, it retains it's classification as a Title 1 gun and requires the same transfer protocol as an ordinary sporting rifle. Prior to the rifled barrel attached, the owner must register it as a DD.
I am not sure how the US State Dept would view the application for export on a 40mm receiver without it being registered as a DD...... Check that, I've got a hunch.
And then our import people/person would not approve, simply "because". Don't ask, it's Canadian people enforcing Canadian gun law. Doesn't have to make sense or follow reason or fairness.
It follows the same doctrine as "What does anyone need one of those for?" mentality.
I digress.
mmcintyre1220
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Just wondering why peoPle say they are knock offs? Basically any AR thats not the origional is a knockoff then? So bushmaster, stag, NEA, LMT are all knockoffs ?
Since everyone else can't seem to answer your question because they can't stay on topic, I'll answer it for you. The M4 (Norc CQ) has a step down machined into the barrel in front of the front sight. That was made specifically for the m203 attachment point. So yes it will work. I have an SP1 with a 20" barrel with a launcher on it but is the skinny barrel. The step-down is there for the skinny clamp that was made for "lighter" contour barrels. I found it looks awesome but it doesn't shoot well with a very front heavy gun. One last thing to keep in mind- make sure you know the distance from the front to rear attachment points on the launcher because as far as I know, there were some different length launchers made. Google pictures and you should be able to see how they attach.
No, Norc's just have piss poor quality control and are made by a communist regime using slave labour. Don't get stuck up over the use of the term "knock off" sure it's another AR but prices usually reflect the degree of quality.
thats got nothing to do with his question about why people call Norc's "Knock-offs" ..
hes exactly right though.. most AR's are knockoffs.. whether made in NA, China, NZ or anywhere else that has a machinist
Bolivar
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That is a good point indeed!
However Norincos are probably the s**ttiest of the knock offs
Which doesn't particularly mean they are bad, just less gooder than any others.
BigUglyMan
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The real reason is "racism" and "elitism" and has nothing to do with quality. If you have a Colt, you're a freedom-loving, red blooded capitalist. If you own a Norinco, you hate freedom and you're some kind of closet pinko.
The Norc 1911s were built using surplused Colt tooling and, by accounts, just as good as any GI 1911.
If you want to pay $100 for a toaster built in some union shop in the US, go ahead. The $15 commie-made toaster at Wal-Mart will turn bread to toast just as well, plus you'll still have money for the bread!
Ya,, what's your point
I've never actually touched a Norinco AR gun, so my knowledge is limited. What has been the experience with Norinco ARs, as far as service and parts, if needed? And do accessories, (as everyone knows it's about the bling) made for "mil-spec" guns fit properly?
Do we have any historic data on Norinco ARS, as far as durability?
Ya,, what's your point
I've never actually touched a Norinco AR gun, so my knowledge is limited. What has been the experience with Norinco ARs, as far as service and parts, if needed? And do accessories, (as everyone knows it's about the bling) made for "mil-spec" guns fit properly?
Do we have any historic data on Norinco ARS, as far as durability?
They are good, as are almost all the norinco guns, just rough finishing in spots. Many US products have fallen in quality, in an attempt to be more competitive with each other, pricewise. The chinese are smart enogh to copy tried and true designs, taking a lot of the work out of having to design a good product. I do have reservations about funding a state like China, but then again, I don't altogether agree with the USA as of late, on a great number of subjects.
