M14 Bolt dis-assembly/assembly
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yea, DON'T do it unless it's necessary to replace parts or modify a spring- i've had one for about 30 years or so and NEVER HAD TO REPLACE ANYTHING YET- DON'T GO LOOKING FOR TROUBLE- you can clean the bolt with compressed air and q-tips- put the information gleaned in that file that's labelled " nice to know if you need it"
just blow it clean,and drop it back in your gun
there seems to be almost a fetish going around about cleaning/disassembling the latest batch of m14et al far more than necessary- degrease it, run some patches down the bore, oil it and HAVE FUN- mircomanagement of gun is NOT necessary
just blow it clean,and drop it back in your gun
there seems to be almost a fetish going around about cleaning/disassembling the latest batch of m14et al far more than necessary- degrease it, run some patches down the bore, oil it and HAVE FUN- mircomanagement of gun is NOT necessary
Disassembly is easy with the combo tool but reassembly,not so easy. The ejector spring is kinda stiff and the extractor also. But with a bolt tool its very easy. In a Garand, with the garand tool disassembly and reassembly is a "walk in the park"
Jocelyn
A birdie told me a new bolt tool is almost ready for market. Canadian made and designed and it will work for M1garand and M14 bolts, I think M1 carbines as well.
I haven't worked with or heard of the outfit before but they promise I'll get the first sample for evaluation soon.
It is said to have an m14 bolt roller greaser (which ironically is an idea I came up with a while ago) and other other features built right in.
I'll keep folks apprised in my dealer forum
I haven't worked with or heard of the outfit before but they promise I'll get the first sample for evaluation soon.
It is said to have an m14 bolt roller greaser (which ironically is an idea I came up with a while ago) and other other features built right in.
I'll keep folks apprised in my dealer forum
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after shoot corrosive ammo,,,, i need to clean it ?????
get a tool
Had a pierced primer, damaged firing pin tip, took apart using 30'06 casing (like on YouTube) getting it back together with 30'06 case was impossible for me, used a bolt tool and it was a breeze (and I am totally not mechanically inclined). Took rifle to range today and
If you are going to shoot your rifle alot I'd get a bolt assembly/disassembly tool, good insurance, glad I did.
Had a pierced primer, damaged firing pin tip, took apart using 30'06 casing (like on YouTube) getting it back together with 30'06 case was impossible for me, used a bolt tool and it was a breeze (and I am totally not mechanically inclined). Took rifle to range today and
If you are going to shoot your rifle alot I'd get a bolt assembly/disassembly tool, good insurance, glad I did.
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30-06 casing inside the chamber? How is that going to help? There needs to be more pressure exerted on the ejector spring than what the op-rod spring can exert to push the extractor piece into place. Also, without first grinding or removing a section of the case head, it will be truly difficult to put the extractor into place over the casing. I would think anyways.
Yes filing a section of the case will allow the extractor to be pushed home and possibly resting the hammer against the bolt may help to compress the ejector. I will test it just in case. Now at home, i use a c-clamp and a section of a case,cut about ¾ inch above the head so i can compress the ejector and put back the extractor with a very small screwdriver to depress the plunger. On my garand i can push the extractor with my thumb but on my M 305, impossible without depressing the plunger first. Ofc the bolt rarely need to be disassembled but its always good to find the way to do it.
Jocelyn
No. Although the current model Gothmog had machined and is selling using my CGN name (now without my permission), had to be altered by me in order function.
I did collaborate on that tools development but was not financially involved nor compensated for my involvement.
That relief cut on the face the extractor butts into, that was me, making all 100 of em work as fantastically as they do.
I have zero involvement with this tool and it's sale.
I've asked that the seller of this tool stop using my CGN name but they have declined last I checked and continue to market NM guide rods and bolt tools to dealers and at gunshows with my CGN name used to boost the reputation.
Whatever, I'm not gonna say much more on that. I asked, they refused, I'm moving on with the name I built.
I will say, the "Gothmog" bolt tool, is an excellent piece of kit, it works very well. Wether you buy one or not is up to you.... But I do not endorse the use of my name in relation to it's sale
The M14Doctor name is mine Thomas, as you full well know ... we can agree to disagree on that one. But can you maintain a clear conscience while claiming you thought up the name yourself?
I am not sure where you are getting your info from, but I am not marketing anything under that name at the moment, any old dealer stock which is labelled as such would be the exception. I should hope that is understandable.
I do feel free to tell people that my product is in fact part of the same run of the stuff that I made under the M14Doctor label on CGN which it in fact is.
When I run out of old stock, it no longer will be and I will not make that claim .... considering how little notice you gave over arbitrarily breaking our arrangement I think that reasonable.
The bolt tools have M14Doctor engraved on them, as quite frankly that was the name I gave the tool, and besides I am not about to grind that out and refinish the lot to satisfy you.
Sorry.
As to the rest, there is much more to the story than you are letting on but I personally see no need to get into this with you on CGN. I have done my best not to raise any of these issues despite what I perceive to be some quite unacceptable behaviour from you, but now you are creating a public situation ... I did not ask for this, and have not provoked you in any way I know of on CGN.
If you feel there is some provocation, you know how to reach me, I don't avoid communication ... you have my cell phone number, and my email.
I am happy to move on and use up the rest of my stock, then perhaps start up again with a new label, we shall see.
I wish you the best of luck but will stand my ground in cases like this when the story presented isn't quite factual.
It's easy, look at registration dates of the dealer account, who paid every dime of the dealer fees, and who's posts, trader rating and reputation identify me as M14Doctor. If there was an issue with this, the time to say something was way back in 2009.
Anyhow, sell your remaining inventory and leave me out of it. Suggesting a good name over a cup of coffee is not ownership. It's what's been done under that name, by myself alone that allows me to make the claim that I do. I didn't just lay in wait registering a domain name and letting someone else financial support the dealer site, in hopes of taking it over one day.
And just so we're clear, there was no formal written business between us, no contract, no financial obligations to each other. So me asking you to give up the domain and all me to carry on on my own without our "association" is something you refused to do. In fact right after I informed you I would be going it alone, you renewed the M14doctor.com domain. That says it all to me ans was a hostile move on your part.
It is now my duty to inform customers seeking the services of M14Doctor, to know that YOU are not ME.
I think this is prudent, responsible and is not meant to aggravate.
Ask the membership of CGN, whi is M14doctor???
I think it's as simple as that don't you.
The bolt tool is great, it's just not made by me. Stop taking my wanting to carry the name I've built on my own as a persoanl slag against you.
Move on, do what you do, you don't need me or my reputation to market products you make.
It's that simple.
Anyhow, sell your remaining inventory and leave me out of it. Suggesting a good name over a cup of coffee is not ownership. It's what's been done under that name, by myself alone that allows me to make the claim that I do. I didn't just lay in wait registering a domain name and letting someone else financial support the dealer site, in hopes of taking it over one day.
And just so we're clear, there was no formal written business between us, no contract, no financial obligations to each other. So me asking you to give up the domain and all me to carry on on my own without our "association" is something you refused to do. In fact right after I informed you I would be going it alone, you renewed the M14doctor.com domain. That says it all to me ans was a hostile move on your part.
It is now my duty to inform customers seeking the services of M14Doctor, to know that YOU are not ME.
I think this is prudent, responsible and is not meant to aggravate.
Ask the membership of CGN, whi is M14doctor???
I think it's as simple as that don't you.
The bolt tool is great, it's just not made by me. Stop taking my wanting to carry the name I've built on my own as a persoanl slag against you.
Move on, do what you do, you don't need me or my reputation to market products you make.
It's that simple.
I'll add that several weeks ago I requested my Dealer name be changed to Ingram Custom Rifleworks. My CGN username however will remain M14Doctor as I am the original registeree of the name and all financial obligations between M14Doctor and CGN have been billed to and paid for soley by me, although you were asked repeatedly to contribute when times were tight and I was scraping lint from my pockets and sellin all my cool toys to stay in the game and keep what I and I alone have built. But you would not contribute, you only offered to "take over" the account if I couldn't afford to keep it runnin. I gave you all the rope I could.... But you know where the end of the rope leads....
I've said all I'm saying. I apologize to everyone that this thread has been derailed but some clarity needed to be brought to this situation.
Gothmog is a good guy, his bolt tool is excellent, however I've made a decision mainly based on liability and it's necessary I limit liability while I expand my liscencing to build and sell rifles.
I'll shut up now.
I've said all I'm saying. I apologize to everyone that this thread has been derailed but some clarity needed to be brought to this situation.
Gothmog is a good guy, his bolt tool is excellent, however I've made a decision mainly based on liability and it's necessary I limit liability while I expand my liscencing to build and sell rifles.
I'll shut up now.
There is no issue here ... except possibly for the fact that I encouraged you to take the name on CGN ... why do you suppose that was Thomas? It was because this was to be a common enterprise at some point. We were both to raise cash to start up a corporate entity, my part was the bolt tool, yours was the smithing. But you needed all the cash you could get, and that was fine. Time passed and you were no closer to being able to contribute financially to this enterprise and furthermore began making financial demands upon me. I was only too grateful to shelve the possibility of a common enterprise at that time ... but we did agree to cooperate, you with smithing, me with product.
I will sell my inventory as I outlined earlier. I have nothing to do with the entity known as M14Doctor on CGN ....
So much material here ...
1. so you admit its not your name
2. you admit I registered the name
3. I had no interest in taking over the site until you told me you were discouraged with the atmosphere on CGN and that you were going to quit. I think there were 3 of those moments. I encouraged you to stay with it until it became apparent to me that you were going to quit, then I told you I had an interest in keeping the name alive to protect I had worked for. You decided to stay ...
Sure, the first sentence is at least close to being true.
The part about the domain is ridiculous ... why should I give up the name I came up with and registered?
Well, Thomas, for your information the domain renews automatically, but nice try ... besides, its my name, why wouldn't I renew it?
Hey, inform away, clarity is great so is full and complete disclosure.
Remember this?
"M14doctor.com is NOT me. M14Doctor.com is my associate who holds all rights to the M14 parts he has brought to market through our collaboration."
I made my views clear on this earlier.
And I agree with you I don't need either you or your reputation ... but I do intend to keep what is mine.
Interesting fabrication Thomas ....
As a matter of fact I offered to help with the costs on more than one occasion, but it never seemed to happen. Perhaps because I asked for the account to be in my name too, and that was "impossible" ...
Sounds like you are an expert on "where the end of the rope leads...."
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