Nemesis 308 + 208 Match + 500 metres = Picture....
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Wow that doesn,t seem like a lot I ran the numbers and it shows more.
You said you were at about 2600 fps with a 208 gr .620 G1 bc the come up for that combo should be right around 10.5 moa.
I also shoot f- class and use Jbm a lot and the numbers are always very close never 2 1/2 moa off at 500 .
Your bullet would have to travel just under 3000 fps to support a little under 8 minutes
.Wow that doesn,t seem like a lot I ran the numbers and it shows more.
You said you were at about 2600 fps with a 208 gr .620 G1 bc the come up for that combo should be right around 10.5 moa.
I also shoot f- class and use Jbm a lot and the numbers are always very close never 2 1/2 moa off at 500 .
Your bullet would have to travel just under 3000 fps to support a little under 8 minutes
63 click back to zero, just counted them back, for me 64 clicks are 8 MOA + 15 clicks to put it bulleye @ 200M, could the fact that my scope is 2.5 inch from the middle of the bore change the number, i heard about that calculator but never got to it... JP.
Well I just calculated it with a 2 1/2" height and it would be 10.3 moa a bit less.
What is the + 15 clicks were did that come from didn't you say you needed to come up a little less than 8 minutes from 200 to 500.
Not sure how to multi quote to help explain this better.
Coyote your calculations were coming up from 100m, caramels were from coming up from 200m. The extra 15 clicks caramel is talking about is comng up from 100m to 200 m, then up another 63-64 clicks or 8 moa to 500 m. Your 10.3 moa from 100 is correct as is his 8 moa from 200.
He is up a total of 78-79 clicks from 100m which is a bit less than 10.3 moa. And is closer to 10 moa.
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Ya I calculated on isnipe and I got 8.75 moa between 200 and 500 but I used my elevation and other info as I don't know caramels so at 8 moa difference I am sure with his info isnipe would come up very close.
I will be down on monday for the day at the private range, i have anyway intended to write down each value in clicks from a 100 to 800 metres and i did asked my friend if we could have a longer range and install flag along the way to go furter, he think he will be good to set me up at 1500 meters to see how the bullet behave to a mile... I will give you guys the # at each stations, i am sure that numbers system is great, but for myself i just use my rangefinder count the clicks and adjust accordingly, now i am not sure if i have enough elevation in the Sightron to get to a mile, i will take along my S&B to see if i do have more with it, in case the Sightron limit, last night did reloads a 100 rounds of 208 to be ready... JP.
Not sure how to multi quote to help explain this better.
Coyote your calculations were coming up from 100m, caramels were from coming up from 200m. The extra 15 clicks caramel is talking about is comng up from 100m to 200 m, then up another 63-64 clicks or 8 moa to 500 m. Your 10.3 moa from 100 is correct as is his 8 moa from 200.
He is up a total of 78-79 clicks from 100m which is a bit less than 10.3 moa. And is closer to 10 moa.
No according to jbm the come up is 10.3 from 200m to 500m.
I just finished running the numbers again and have the same findings this morning we are talking M not yds.
Are you playing a WI video game or shooting, you know the real shooting with the real rifle, with the real rounds on the real range... JP.
You know I am a real shooter and have been at it for a long time .
My eight year old plays with a wii I don't.
Caramel to be honest some of your threads are questionable you post pics of groups only you know how far away they have been shot.
I ask you a simple question on elevation and you give me 2 answers in 2 different posts I don't know.
You do have a nice rifle caramel and I am sure it shoots nice but to be honest I have a hard time beleiving you sometimes.
Me and my friend were at the range shooting at 300m last weekend with my 308 and his 260 both custom target rifles both our guns will shoot 1/4" groups at 100 often enough.
That day with no flags and some wind nothing to strong we shot groups similar to what you say you shot at 500.
If you read all my posts you will see I calculated the 2 1/2 " , it changes it from 10.5 to 10.3 moa I use jbm a lot it is a very accurate measuring system with all my rifles so it shouldn't be any different this time.
Not believing what i am IS your problem, my shooting is serious business, you know did not give you 2 differents answers if you look back at the posts, now i need no excuses, what i show is what i do, i a am old school shooter, what happen if i made a mistake counting my clicks now i have to recall is my last zero at 200 or 300 metres, you cant go on telling to somebody work is wrong because of #... It will be my pleasure to see you at the Maynard MOA challenge on July 7 and you can see it live not tru the internet, i intend to try being the first to succed... JP.
Caramel I do wish you the best of luck at the MOA challenge and I hope you succeed .
I don't know about you but when I am working up loads and trying distances everything is documented for future references, it makes things a lot easier when you get to a match there is no guess work.
Oh and by the way I am looking forward to see the results of Maynard's challenge
.Marine Scout Snipers tested this weapon at the High Altitude Shooting Course in Hawthorne, NV and were able to hold 3 inch groups at 600 yards and 6.5 inch groups at 905 yards.
Source: DefenseReview.com (http://s.tt/13fjw) I am in contact with David Ives ceo of Nemesis Arms and those groups were shoot with 168 gr GM Federal commercial ammo so with a tailored handload 1.3 to 2 inchs at 540 yards is very in the range... JP.
Source: DefenseReview.com (http://s.tt/13fjw) I am in contact with David Ives ceo of Nemesis Arms and those groups were shoot with 168 gr GM Federal commercial ammo so with a tailored handload 1.3 to 2 inchs at 540 yards is very in the range... JP.
Sounds to me like you're an on-line marketing rep.
Caramel I also read about that, I don't doubt the groups in this thread as much as your previous thread about what you claim you shot at 200 and 300.
I have been shooting for a long time and have seen many of great groups over the years and there is no doubt in my mind that your rifle is capable of holding 3 inches at 600 with the right conditions and you doing your part.
Caramel I am not trying to discourage you we need all the shooters wer can get so we have a strong and vibrant shooting community.
Anyway have fun shooting and dont burn out your barrel before the moa challenge
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Pehaps posting some hard data along with your group measurments may help others believe more readily. In my opinion it would also make the thread more interesting because we might all learn something from it. I would love to know more of your loading technique, perhaps you have a trick or two I could apply to my reloading practices. I personally am here to learn something.
Being proud of you accomplishments is great but proving beyond a doubt to those who doubt is even better.
With that said I also use 208 amax's and your numbers for drop from a 200m zero to 500m target are my real world numbers from my Savage 110BA @ 2900fps. A combination I have taken as far as 1760m. As ber bulletflight and JBM.
I will be more than happy to link this data so You and Dizzy can brush over my numbers to ensure they are correct.
Being proud of you accomplishments is great but proving beyond a doubt to those who doubt is even better.
With that said I also use 208 amax's and your numbers for drop from a 200m zero to 500m target are my real world numbers from my Savage 110BA @ 2900fps. A combination I have taken as far as 1760m. As ber bulletflight and JBM.
I will be more than happy to link this data so You and Dizzy can brush over my numbers to ensure they are correct.
