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I promised I would post some pics up of some of the birds we have been privileged to fly.


I have finally figured out how to post pics......

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She followed me home.....honest.

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Have you ever had eyes bigger than your stomach?

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Chilling...

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Time for diner and home.....

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nice - is that first one an immature bald eagle? Do you hunt much with those birds or are they mainly for training & demonstration?

That is correct, immature female Bald. For the most part they all are or were actively hunted. The snowy....well we will call it more like daily walks, as we never managed to catch anything. We chase geese with the bald, dicky birds and pigeons with the falcons and of course anything that moved with the RT. Of all the falconry birds, from blackbirds to bunnies and large ducks.....pound for pound, the Rt is the most productive and fun. Cheep to keep, cheep to house and not nearly as demanding as far as training and time as the rest. In all fairness tho, our local land suits the hawks best. Having said that, if you ever have a chance don't pass up calling an eagle to the fist. It is a lifetime experience one should not miss out on.
 
Saw a perigrine falcon today and it reminded me just how awsome it would be to have a bird. Pretty amazing stuff.
 
Sorry for the old thread revival- I'd love to see more- interested in falconry myself, although I may not get into it, I'd love to assist falconers
 
Very nice. :)

So can you go away on vacation for a week or are the aggregate of birds too high maintenance for that?

Vacation, 3 or 4 days is about the longest I have left them, in theory it should be possible to go longer but I would not be comfortable.

If you have them pig fat and then leave enough feed on the first day late for the following day, then they are only out for day 2 and three and then you are back for day four to feed again. For a full week, I would have someone check on them. This allows fresh daily feed and a general check up. It could be done but murphys law applies particularly to birds of prey in captivity. Better yet is just camp well you are away and take them with you. This works well for the small birds and ok with the eagle, The medium size birds not so much. They are too big to keep in the car and too small to fend for them selves. Hotels work too......nothing like bird in the bathtub to inspire romance at a fancy hotel........
 
Very nice. :)

So can you go away on vacation for a week or are the aggregate of birds too high maintenance for that?

I was actually wondering that myself- thanks for the informative post Hawking!

One question I have: Are the prices of these birds real? $1500 for a red tailed hawk? What about importing birds from the USA or UK? I'd love to see a Red Kite Hawk up close- as I've heard that 5th great-grandfather on my father's side lived in Scotland and owned a Red Kite.
 
I was actually wondering that myself- thanks for the informative post Hawking!

One question I have: Are the prices of these birds real? $1500 for a red tailed hawk? What about importing birds from the USA or UK? I'd love to see a Red Kite Hawk up close- as I've heard that 5th great-grandfather on my father's side lived in Scotland and owned a Red Kite.

Pricing.....whats the value of a old colt new service? correct answer.......................................what ever the person who wants it will pay.

Not sure where you are getting prices but Yes, that is about right, I would expect to pay anywhere from $800 to $1500 for a RT, depending on male or female, trained or untouched. As far as value many things affect that............. old or young, bad habits(aggressive face grabber or screamer), how bad the person wants to get rid of it or wants to buy it. I have purchased mid sized birds(hawks, falcons) as low as $300, I have also spent as much a $5000 on higher priced stuff(it goes higher). But it could be said with the right connections you can get a decent bird to start with from $800 to $2000. This will buy you pretty much anything you would want to start with as a new falconer( buteo, accipiter, falcon).

I also know many breeders who would rather give a bird to a good falconer for free than see him be without a bird to fly for the season, but these sort of relationships come with time. Myself, If mine ever breed, I will be giving them to any of my apprentices that want one for free, when they complete there apprenticeship and license and proof them selves worth of the privilege. At the end of the day, i hate the money game that falconry is slowly becoming. Falconry used to be a privileged that was earned, not purchased. At one point you could not buy a bird with all the money in the world unless your sponsor or someone the seller trusted knew you and spoke on your behalf. It is getting to the point now that folks plunk down enough money and poof they are now a "falconer"...........................it is a shame on our most noble tradition. It should be earned by the sweat of your brow, not purchased.


Importing is possible and not too difficult. More exporting from source that is the issue especially from the US. The exporter must be registered to export that particular species. A lot of folks don't bother to get licensed, which is a shame because the prices are definitely cheaper in the US, mostly due to there wild take laws. The US breeders sure are not in it for the money. As for Canada, we are a net exporter of birds. Our domestic market is so small compared to what we produce. A lot of birds bred here are exported to countries where falconry is more popular. There are not that many falconers Canada wide. On top of that some provinces allow wild birds to be trapped and flown by falconers, so ya not much of a domestic market. Our prices seem high until you understand the level of care, time and expense involved in producing good falconry birds. Once you do the math you realize very quickly that it sure aint worth it just for the money.

Cheers
 
Pricing.....whats the value of a old colt new service? correct answer.......................................what ever the person who wants it will pay.

Not sure where you are getting prices but Yes, that is about right, I would expect to pay anywhere from $800 to $1500 for a RT, depending on male or female, trained or untouched. As far as value many things affect that............. old or young, bad habits(aggressive face grabber or screamer), how bad the person wants to get rid of it or wants to buy it. I have purchased mid sized birds(hawks, falcons) as low as $300, I have also spent as much a $5000 on higher priced stuff(it goes higher). But it could be said with the right connections you can get a decent bird to start with from $800 to $2000. This will buy you pretty much anything you would want to start with as a new falconer( buteo, accipiter, falcon).

I also know many breeders who would rather give a bird to a good falconer for free than see him be without a bird to fly for the season, but these sort of relationships come with time. Myself, If mine ever breed, I will be giving them to any of my apprentices that want one for free, when they complete there apprenticeship and license and proof them selves worth of the privilege. At the end of the day, i hate the money game that falconry is slowly becoming. Falconry used to be a privileged that was earned, not purchased. At one point you could not buy a bird with all the money in the world unless your sponsor or someone the seller trusted knew you and spoke on your behalf. It is getting to the point now that folks plunk down enough money and poof they are now a "falconer"...........................it is a shame on our most noble tradition. It should be earned by the sweat of your brow, not purchased.


Importing is possible and not too difficult. More exporting from source that is the issue especially from the US. The exporter must be registered to export that particular species. A lot of folks don't bother to get licensed, which is a shame because the prices are definitely cheaper in the US, mostly due to there wild take laws. The US breeders sure are not in it for the money. As for Canada, we are a net exporter of birds. Our domestic market is so small compared to what we produce. A lot of birds bred here are exported to countries where falconry is more popular. There are not that many falconers Canada wide. On top of that some provinces allow wild birds to be trapped and flown by falconers, so ya not much of a domestic market. Our prices seem high until you understand the level of care, time and expense involved in producing good falconry birds. Once you do the math you realize very quickly that it sure aint worth it just for the money.

Cheers

Came across a release that the Ontario Falconry Centre near Tottenham was fined $6000 in 2008 for licencing irregularities relating to possessing birds.
I suppose the best idea would be to have all the paper in order from the get go.
 
That is pretty bad ass man. How did u get into this? very very unusual yet very cool.

My interest has been lifelong. As far as actually taking steps. It started when we lived on a farm in NS. We had a pair nesting Bald eagles right on the farm. Being so close was to much and drove me over the edge into this insanity. Took me 7 yrs of researching and learning before finally taking the plunge and getting my own bird. I apprenticed with another Ontario Falconer. I have also attended private training, both in Ontario and out of province.
 
Hey Hawking could you recomend some reading material either books or websites or anything that talks about falconry. Its very interesting and i'd like to know more

Start on the North American Falconry Exchange. It is a web forum.

I will look for some specific book titles for you when I have more time.
Drop me a PM and we can talk details.
 
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