NEA-15 after 400 Rounds Fired **Pic Heavy**

I am going to have to agree with 2bad4u2. i expect guns to work when i buy them. Canadian i want to support, but not so i can get an AR education on how to get it working. I have owned and modified a few AR's...learning as i go. None gave me issues like i have read here.
 
I am going to have to agree with 2bad4u2. i expect guns to work when i buy them. Canadian i want to support, but not so i can get an AR education on how to get it working. I have owned and modified a few AR's...learning as i go. None gave me issues like i have read here.

x2 ..I enjoy working on firearms but the QC of NEA is disappointing to see , the good customer service helps but IMHO that is just a bandaid for the problem.
Alot of people slam Norinco,s but my Mforgery ran flawlessly .
 
any edmonton area nEA owers want to get together for a shoot sometime?>

mines coming in this week, thought maybe we could do some more formal range testing, om me if you are interested

I'll probably be going to Sherwood Park this Sunday morning, first thing. If you want to join, that's cool! I have one of the first 30 batch, and about 800 rounds through it.
 
When you can open the box, take out the firearm, and fire it without having a malfunction or issues related to improper assembly or quality control.

When NEA doesn't have to go into damage control when obvious and amateurish blunders plague their product and company.

That's when I'd consider NEA having its "sh!t together".

We wouldn't have the daily threads from new owners complaining about a myriad of different issues if NEA was competent in bringing their product to market.

As to your second point, when was the last time you heard about someone "ranting" about the general quality of Noveske? LMT? KAC? How about Stag? Colt? Hmm...didn't think so.

I've said this on many occasions. Most everyone wants NEA to succeed. Why wouldn't you want a Canadian firearms manufacturer to flourish? Having said that, we shouldn't be giving NEA a "free pass" just because they are Canadian. They should be held to the same level as any other firearms manufacturer. Allowing them to hide under the flag isn't doing them a bit of good in the long run. They've been to that well on a few occasions now and the well is all but dry at this point.



Which one is NEA?

:agree: Once all the QC issues are worked out and people start receiving rifle's they can fire straight out of the box without issue, that's when I would consider buying an NEA15. My Norinco CQ has been just that and has exceeded my expectations.
 
Just so everyone knows, SFRC, in their usual awesome form, over-nighted me a BCG for my NEA PDW. I could have waited for it, so as far as I am concerned, they went above and beyond to get me one. It looks fantastic and is properly staked. Oh and it has Tai bolts :nest:

So thanks to SFRC!

Initial impressions:

The issues that have affected a few other people have not reared up during normal function tests. Charging handle clears the buffer tube, the quad rail is secure, and overall the action is very smooth. It chambers and ejects snap caps no problem.

While there is the odd machining mark here and there, and only around what I assume are more mathematically complex structures for the machine to deal with, the fit and finish of the rifle are excellent. Way better than my Norc CQ-A. There is minimal wobble between the lower and upper. Much less than my Norc.

There is a slight colour disparity between the upper and lower. The upper is slightly darker. It is probably a minor difference. I do a lot of airbrushing and my eyes have been trained to recognized colour gradients with even the slightest differences. Most people may not even see what I see on the gun.

The BCG is properly staked and quite a nice piece.

So I am happy for now. I love SBRs, and as long as this one functions properly, this will probably take the place as my main SBR.

I will be doing a range session within the next 2 weeks. I plan on running 3-4 hundred rounds through the rifle at that time. I am going to document the day with my Go-Pro strapped to my noggin. I'll be doing a quick 50yd zero with the sparc and then attempt some groups at 40/60/100m. I will then take it on the action range and do some quick fire to see how it handles that.

I'll try and vary the ammo from 55 to 62gr and I'll use commercially available stuff that isn't MFS. It's bad enough I use that junk in my pistols lol.
 
I have a nice shiny New Norinco 10.5 and this little fella... Im going to take them out together soon and beat the crap outta them... kind of a last man standing type thing... I'm curious to see how the NEA will perform.

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i believe you just want the metal of the gas key deformed in a way that folds it over the top of the screw head keeping it from backing out.
 
Easy is a HUGE NEA hate troll. Should probably just ignore him at this point as his bias runs so deep that he is willing to tinfoil hat over some screws in a picture.

Legitimate concerns are legitimate concerns, but when it becomes a career to slag something this much, you should probably step back and reexamine your priorities.

My PDW will be here soon. Whether she goes or blows, I will post impressions and a range report. I also have a Norc CQ for direct comparison shots.

- I own a Norinco CQ ... wish I would have saved for a NEA. I do not regret buying a Norinco for a second, however the quality of the NEA and service provided far exceeds the Norinco value in my eyes.
I think NEA should be given tones of support. Despite the quality issue threads their service as per many CGN members is top notch and if supported well they will hopefully diversify their line & inventory even further.
I would much rather buy a Canadian AR that an American.
 
I was going to post this in the "other" NEA thread but since it was locked I thought I would bump this post so people could get a look at the finish on another NEA15. Since my original post my rifle has been through a 3-gun match and another 4-500 rounds without missing a beat.

Seriously though, we all know beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You might think some tooling marks are ugly. I might think "Made in China" looks ugly. Who cares as long as we both have what we want, we shoot the F out of them, and have fun doing so.
 
I know you don’t care and are happy with your NEA the way it is, but I believe others should know before they make a purchase decision… When I look closely at your pictures of the receivers I can see tooling marks, across the whole upper and some heavy circular markings on your lower. Very evident above your safety selector.

I was looking at buying a set of receivers about 2 weeks ago and had looked at NEA. I wish something like this had been pointed out from the get go.
 
I know you don’t care and are happy with your NEA the way it is, but I believe others should know before they make a purchase decision… When I look closely at your pictures of the receivers I can see tooling marks, across the whole upper and some heavy circular markings on your lower. Very evident above your safety selector.

I was looking at buying a set of receivers about 2 weeks ago and had looked at NEA. I wish something like this had been pointed out from the get go.

I think they should know too, that is why I posted the pics. These are not forged uppers and lowers so I wasn't expecting a "forged" appearance when I got it and those expecting one may be disappointed. The recently posted pics by Dweenz show what look like heavier tool marks than the NEAs I have seen. From his pics it was hard to tell if the tool marks were in fact deeper or if it was just the lighting.
The lighting in my pics was harsh and it makes the tooling marks look worse than they do when you are looking at it. Those "heavy circular markings" you mentioned on my lower...I didn't even know they were there until I took the pics and you certainly cannot feel them.
 
also it turns out my rifle is last years batch somehow even though they are back ordered like crazy i got an old one.... as long as it meets the same spec and fit finish of everyone elses i am happy i just don't want to be the one who got the ####ty rifle when everyone else got good ones :(
 
Id rather have the purchase price be all product, with the guarantee that things will be made right if something goes wrong, then pay an extra 100 bucks to have someone inspect my rifle for two hours before it ships

the OP looks like he has a sweet gun from the pictures and what he says about his.

I'd rather buy quality the first time than have to deal with warranty work. And I'd much rather have someone take a detailed look at the rifle before it ships out.


This is why.

Got mine, too. But somehow it shipped without a bolt carrier group :redface:. Working on solving that dilemma.
 
This is why.

FastFord58 said:
Got mine, too. But somehow it shipped without a bolt carrier group . Working on solving that dilemma.

Actually this had nothing to do with NEA. SFRC removed the BCG to check the staking and did not replace it before the rifle shipped from their store.

Chemist said:
That's my fault not NEA. It's on my desk, if Marse didn't send it Friday I'll over night it to you Monday. I took it out to check the staking and left it on my desk. Again my apologies.
 
Actually this had nothing to do with NEA. SFRC removed the BCG to check the staking and did not replace it before the rifle shipped from their store.


yeah... see thats why I take all the people complaining, who dont actually have a gun with problems, with a grain of salt.

its like that game telephone

og is a smart guy who I respect on this site, but its just that easy to hear the gossip or get the wrong impression.
 
I think they should know too, that is why I posted the pics. These are not forged uppers and lowers so I wasn't expecting a "forged" appearance when I got it and those expecting one may be disappointed. The recently posted pics by Dweenz show what look like heavier tool marks than the NEAs I have seen. From his pics it was hard to tell if the tool marks were in fact deeper or if it was just the lighting.
The lighting in my pics was harsh and it makes the tooling marks look worse than they do when you are looking at it. Those "heavy circular markings" you mentioned on my lower...I didn't even know they were there until I took the pics and you certainly cannot feel them.

Honestly, I would have never have known if not for the other thread. I have looked closely at your pictures before, and I took an even closer look at them yesterday. Not until I saved your pictures and zoomed into them did I notice the marks. There is no mention of them in your OP and there is no mention as to the extent of them when you bumped the thread. Although, I don’t believe it was your intent, my first impression when I saw the thread bumped was that you were trying to show pictures of a rifle with no marks… Yes, I took it upon myself to clarify that was not the case for less observant people.

Thank you for the clarification of how bad (or not bad) the marks really are.
 
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