glock 17 recoil buffer needed to prevent damage to polymer frame?

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glock 17 recoil buffer needed to prevent damage to polymer frame?
Saw that somewhere showing a poor frame beaten from the recoil.

Do you need to use a special buffer to prevent damage to the glock or not?
gen 4
 
Kryogen said:
glock 17 recoil buffer needed to prevent damage to polymer frame?
Saw that somewhere showing a poor frame beaten from the recoil.

Do you need to use a special buffer to prevent damage to the glock or not?
gen 4
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I have a 34 with at least 2,000 rounds by me alone through it and there is not a hint of frame damage.

I don't think the frames can wear out, polymer is extremely resiliant.
 
Where would this ''buffer" go? I know troublesome guns such as the 1911 have shok-buffs but I fail to see how they would work on a Glock design.
 
mlehtovaara said:
I'd love to see the source for this BS!
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my guess is the marketing dept at gl*ck st*re :D

I never knew I needed so many things to correct the function of my perfectly perfoming glocks before I started reading the product descriptions on their site hahahaha.

my fav are the descriptions of the tiatanium firing pin, the buffer shim and the disconnector... oh how about that spring kit with color coated weights to dial your glock in for competition hahahaha

Please enjoy some of the following gems.

Description of the 3.5lb disconnector

The Lone Wolf 3.5 lb Connector is an improved version of the Glock original 3.5.

Special features include:

Unique coating to make the connector super slippery.
25% reduction in side thickness provides superior reset action.
The connector has been redesigned with new spring weights and angles for improved geometry and feel. Connector has a built in debris channel for improved performance. Connector works with ALL Glocks regardless of model or generation.
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They could just write, " for a lighter trigger pull"

Ghost rocket disconnector

The Ghost Rocket is the world's best selling Trigger Control Connector for Glock pistols. The accuracy and speed of your shooting will greatly improve from the Rocket's Patented Trigger Control Tab technology. This technology gives you a lighter & shorter trigger pull while eliminating accuracy-robbing trigger over-travel. You will get more accurate shots and a faster reset for quicker follow up shots.
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Ti firing pin

Increase accuracy by reducing lock time--the time it takes for the striker to hit the primer once you have pulled the trigger! This replacement part weighs 60% less than the original factory part. Additionally, because it is Titanium, you'll enjoy superior corrosion resistance, heat tolerance, and strength. Backed with a lifetime warranty and CNC machined to aerospace tolerance. Just drop it in and shoot!
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The buffer
Our Recoil Buffer for the Glock pistol eliminates the metal slide from impacting the polymer frame. This repeated impact batters the frame where the two parts come into contact. Stopping this battering is accomplished by inserting the buffer between the recoil spring and the slide. Each time the action is worked or the weapon is fired the buffer comes into contact with the frame, not the metal slide.

Installation of the Recoil Buffer takes only seconds, and will result in reduced felt recoil, enhanced muzzle control and a lengthen the service life of your Glock
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the ti safety plunger

This replacement Safety Plunger helps provide a smoother, lighter trigger pull and, hence, better accuracy!

Titanium is a harder material and able to be polished more than steel. The surface area has been slightly rounded and the part is machined from a solid billet of heat-treated titanium. That reduces the friction of the trigger bar as it glides over the the safety plunger when you pull the trigger and reduces the effort needed to pull the trigger.

That's what gives you better accuracy. Because there is less friction on the metal to metal parts....the trigger pull is lighter!
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mlehtovaara said:
So that's why I can't shoot a Glock for sh#t! :eek:

It all makes sense now.......:rolleyes:
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True story.

You must have at least $400 in tacticool performance products to even be considered a real glock owner. :D

I have a glock 34 that was pimped out by the previous owner another CGN'r, and it shoots identical to a stock 34 that I tried at the range.

Another thing, they are now making steel glock frames... bastardazing the glock concept.
 
Lots of Snake Oil out there for the unknowing shooter.. Most of which is self generated hype. Do some research before getting all wiggly and looking to buy as there is a lot of crap.
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Kryogen said:
glock 17 recoil buffer needed to prevent damage to polymer frame?
Saw that somewhere showing a poor frame beaten from the recoil.

Do you need to use a special buffer to prevent damage to the glock or not?
gen 4
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Need, no. And it's designed to prevent the guide rod from directly impacting against the front of the slide - not the frame. I find that having it ever so slightly dampens recoil. Others have reported that it increases stovepipes, FTE and FTF - so your mileage may vary.
 
My advice is buy a glock and leave it alone. It is perfect the way it is. It will start having issues when your aftermarket products create them.

( aftermarket barrels are exceptions)

I saw in another thread that someone bought the enhanced extractor for "more reliable" extraction and actually began having jams :D


The glock is quickly becoming the 1911, you can pretty much build one from parts off the interweb, and in the end you will end up with a product that is completely the opposite of what Gaston Glock designed hahaha.
 
Im all about modding stuff. Cars,bikes ect. One thing in life i do not mod is guns. I know i sound retarded but I ONLY put O.E parts in guns. Want to try different spring weights? Thats great. Ill only try it if there O.E springs.
 
c0ntract said:
I saw in another thread that someone bought the enhanced extractor for "more reliable" extraction and actually began having jams :D
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Haha, that was probably me. :redface: It's misleading because the aftermarket version looks the same (overall), but actually goes in opposite of the factory one. Runs flawlessly for me, but it could be that I'll only see any benefit over the stock one under extreme conditions or operating environments.
 
blaxsun said:
Haha, that was probably me. :redface: It's misleading because the aftermarket version looks the same (overall), but actually goes in opposite of the factory one. Runs flawlessly for me, but it could be that I'll only see any benefit over the stock one under extreme conditions or operating environments.
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...well this is awkward... I didn't mean to call you out hahaha

my factory extractor has seen thousands of rounds from me without a FTE. Did you have issues with yours?


I moddify cars to, and am a big advocate of the OEM+ look being a dubber :D I do dabble with my guns a bit, I have a Norinco AR that I turned into a theme gun using a lot of aftermarket parts.

The vast majority of my firearms are stock though aside from scopes or bipods.
 
c0ntract said:
...well this is awkward... I didn't mean to call you out hahaha

my factory extractor has seen thousands of rounds from me without a FTE. Did you have issues with yours?

I moddify cars to, and am a big advocate of the OEM+ look being a dubber :D I do dabble with my guns a bit, I have a Norinco AR that I turned into a theme gun using a lot of aftermarket parts.

The vast majority of my firearms are stock though aside from scopes or bipods.
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lol, no worries. ;) My wife was having a lot of FTE issues with her Glock G17C at the time, so I upgraded the extractor assembly and it seemed to run a lot better after (once I figured out I had it in backwards). As for the actual extractor itself on my G19, I was still having problems with the occasional FTE, so I just replaced it with a new 'loaded chamber' version and haven't had a problem since.

With respect to black rifles, I usually change out most of the internals. The stock trigger, pins and selector are usually replaced by a Geissele, KNS pins and BAD A.S.S. selector (this way I can just use allen wrenches to take anything apart in the future).

I have a Steyr and HK P2000 that are essentially factory, although I did upgrade the guide rod on my Steyr to a stainless one. I've never really liked the 'stock' Glock (at least insofar as how it shot compared to some of my other handguns). My advice when 'tweaking' is to upgrade one part at a time, thoroughly try it out first and hang onto the factory parts!
 
Dr.K said:
Im all about modding stuff. Cars,bikes ect. One thing in life i do not mod is guns. I know i sound retarded but I ONLY put O.E parts in guns. Want to try different spring weights? Thats great. Ill only try it if there O.E springs.
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Yep, it always amazes me how people have the need to mod their handguns. Potentially the most potentially hamfull piece of equipment you will ever put in your hand and people still think they can do it better than the original manufacturer. This is why I don't buy used semi autos, too many amateur gunsmiths out there. At least if a stock firearm with factory ammo blows up in your hand you will be covered by the manufacturers insurance policy. Good luck once you've modded it or use reloads.
 
I will continue to shoot my 100% unmodified gen 3 Glock 17 with all sorts of jacketed ammunition, without any buffer. If I have a frame failure, I'll letcha know, but I don't think it's possible to wear out a Glock frame unless you're shooting hot .357 Sig, or hundreds of thousands of rounds.

Now, guns like Berettas have recently put a buffer into their aluminum alloy framed guns. Those guns have a comparatively short lifespan next to a Glock. Still thousands of $$$ in ammo.

Shoot the Glock and enjoy. :D
 
Ballox said:
Yep, it always amazes me how people have the need to mod their handguns.
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There's nothing wrong with switching to a heavier guide rod or aftermarket barrel. In fact, the barrel is at required (or at least recommended) if you're going to be running reloads on your Glock.

mr00jimbo said:
I will continue to shoot my 100% unmodified gen 3 Glock 17 with all sorts of jacketed ammunition, without any buffer. If I have a frame failure, I'll letcha know, but I don't think it's possible to wear out a Glock frame unless you're shooting hot .357 Sig, or hundreds of thousands of rounds.
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I tend to agree.
 
My glock 34 that I bought moddified has the following: Heinie sights, extended mag release, extended slide release, SS guide rod, 3.5lb disconnector, polished safety detent, a spring kit, refinished slide, a glockmeister magwell and an adjustable trigger. I think I am forgeting stuff, but that is not the point. My point is It shoots identical to a stock glock 34 in my first hand experience. hahaha
 
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