The 'other 2 Mausers' or 'Look ma I made me a purdy shootin stick!'
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hahah - what I was thinking, not sure what I am going to do with it - it looks like a hell of a lotta fun but it's also pretty chopped up...
Maybe if I can find wood for it, I can always pin the holes in the receiver... wood may be an issue though....
its not that chopped....just a few widdle holes from the willy sight...
.....and its missing the proper rear sight........
.............and the wood is chopped.............
.....is the bolt supposed to be bent.....?
Yer right.......its junk.....give it to me
.....and its missing the proper rear sight........
.............and the wood is chopped.............
.....is the bolt supposed to be bent.....?
Yer right.......its junk.....give it to me
its not that chopped....just a few widdle holes from the willy sight...
.....and its missing the proper rear sight........
.............and the wood is chopped.............
.....is the bolt supposed to be bent.....?
Yer right.......its junk.....give it to me
The bolt is definitely from 'elsewhere' non matching, I believe they are supposed to be in the white and yes - straight.
As to your big old one, it is a Mouser also, but for BIG mice: 43"-calibre, to be sure. EXCELLENT Zombie gun!
The "JG 71/84" is what it is: INFANTERIEGEWEHR 71/84. The old German Gothic letter "I" looked like "J". Infantry Rifle Model 1871 with 1884 alterations (the Magazine and Cutoff.)
It was made at the Konigliches Gewehrsfactorie Spandau, just outside of Berlin at that tme: the Royal Rifle Factory at Spandau. It was built in 1887 and issued immediately.
The "Crown F.W." is the Royal Signet and descends from King Friedrich Wilhelm III. Your rifle was made during the reign of Kaiser Wilhelm I, who died very early in 1888 and was followed, for a mere 99 days, by Kaiser Frederick II, who was followed in turn by Kaiser Wilhelm II, the "Kaiser Bill" of Great War fame. Whoever held the sovereignty of Prussia also was the German Emperor (note carefully: NOT "Emperor of the Germans" but "German Emperor": there was a lot of local independence before 1933. On the coins, this was written "Deutscher Kaiser, Konig von Preussen", just to keep things straight. But your rifle was built in the last days of the reign of the FIRST modern German Emperor, the man who marched his Army through PARIS following the Franco-Prussian War. The French never forgave him for this, even though French Armies marching through OTHER folks' capital cities was perfectly allright, just so long as you had a Corsican General to blame it all on when it all fell apart.
Calibre is 11.15x60R, which was made in Canada until 1968 as the .43 Mauser. It uses the classic Mauser "A-base" case design with 77 grains of Black or 29 grains of SR-4759 and a hollowbase .433" bullet weighing 386 grains. GROOVE diameter is .446", so don't go over that figure. It will stop just about anything short of a light Tank and was/is one of the truly GREAT rounds for Moose in bush.
Barrel length is supposed to be 31.5 inches, so you can judge the Extent of Bubbafication from there.
They are a LOT of fun and, if you lay in some ammo and a set of dies and a mould, one will fill the freezer for another 125 years. These are EXTREMELY solid rifles.
Nice toy!
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The "JG 71/84" is what it is: INFANTERIEGEWEHR 71/84. The old German Gothic letter "I" looked like "J". Infantry Rifle Model 1871 with 1884 alterations (the Magazine and Cutoff.)
It was made at the Konigliches Gewehrsfactorie Spandau, just outside of Berlin at that tme: the Royal Rifle Factory at Spandau. It was built in 1887 and issued immediately.
The "Crown F.W." is the Royal Signet and descends from King Friedrich Wilhelm III. Your rifle was made during the reign of Kaiser Wilhelm I, who died very early in 1888 and was followed, for a mere 99 days, by Kaiser Frederick II, who was followed in turn by Kaiser Wilhelm II, the "Kaiser Bill" of Great War fame. Whoever held the sovereignty of Prussia also was the German Emperor (note carefully: NOT "Emperor of the Germans" but "German Emperor": there was a lot of local independence before 1933. On the coins, this was written "Deutscher Kaiser, Konig von Preussen", just to keep things straight. But your rifle was built in the last days of the reign of the FIRST modern German Emperor, the man who marched his Army through PARIS following the Franco-Prussian War. The French never forgave him for this, even though French Armies marching through OTHER folks' capital cities was perfectly allright, just so long as you had a Corsican General to blame it all on when it all fell apart.
Calibre is 11.15x60R, which was made in Canada until 1968 as the .43 Mauser. It uses the classic Mauser "A-base" case design with 77 grains of Black or 29 grains of SR-4759 and a hollowbase .433" bullet weighing 386 grains. GROOVE diameter is .446", so don't go over that figure. It will stop just about anything short of a light Tank and was/is one of the truly GREAT rounds for Moose in bush.
Barrel length is supposed to be 31.5 inches, so you can judge the Extent of Bubbafication from there.
They are a LOT of fun and, if you lay in some ammo and a set of dies and a mould, one will fill the freezer for another 125 years. These are EXTREMELY solid rifles.
Nice toy!
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MauserMike
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- SW Ontario
Oh bubba, what hast thou donest to this IG 71/84?
Oh bubba, what hast thou donest to this IG 71/84?
Like Jesus said, Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
MauserMike
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- Location
- SW Ontario
Are there any unit markings on the butt plate of the 71/84?
Wow! That's a good chunk of really interesting information - thanks smellie!
one question, the barrel appears to be integral to the receiver [one piece?] true? i.e. what are my chances of finding a new barrel & new wood for this?
-thanks
-sean
It does! actually some of the more clear markings.
On the top of the plate is what looks to be a proof mark similar to the one beside the FG... then also on the top "57 R" right below that 4.233 [the 4 may be a 1] then on the bottom of the plate near the screw '23'
Didn't notice these before.
-sean
MauserMike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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57th Infantrie Regiment, 4. Kompanie, rifle #233.
The 23 just shows its the original matching the last two digits of your serial number. There are probably dozens of them all over the small parts of the rifle.
Barrel screws out of the receiver, just as with most military rifles. It just LOOKS to be one piece because the fitting was so close, the finish so perfect and the workmanship so very precise. They really took PRIDE in what they were making.
What I don't understand is how you can take pride in slapping together a bunch of plastic injection-mouldings, die-cast aluminum parts and CNC machine-produced bits.
Perhaps the new stuff works okay, but we have LOST so VERY much in other ways. Apart from a very tiny minority of custom-built rifles, there is nothing on the market today which can rival the basic "issue" military rifles of the 1880s and 1890s in the areas of form, fit and finish.
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What I don't understand is how you can take pride in slapping together a bunch of plastic injection-mouldings, die-cast aluminum parts and CNC machine-produced bits.
Perhaps the new stuff works okay, but we have LOST so VERY much in other ways. Apart from a very tiny minority of custom-built rifles, there is nothing on the market today which can rival the basic "issue" military rifles of the 1880s and 1890s in the areas of form, fit and finish.
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100% Agreed.
I'm amazed at the fit between the wood & metal of my South American contract Mausers.
"craftsmanship" & "pride" ~ nuff said.
On the bright side, the barrel is good news, I think I may have found a barrel, and I did find a stock. Just some barrel bands, magazine & rear site pieces to find now!
Rather doubt there would be any problems. It's an Antique under their laws (1888 was the last manufacture, so it won't date later than that, which is 10 years before their cutoff. Under our laws, it's Unrestricted so, at most, you will have to show your PAL.
Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
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