EO-Tech Vs. Aimpoint

I like my EOTech XPS2-0 because of the size of the dot in the middle. Its only 1MOA so it makes it MUCH easier to make precise shots over longer distances. I haven't used a magnifier but I could see it helping there too.
 
The XPS series EoTechs with the transverse battery compartment design are much more reliable than the original configuration with the batteries parallel with the bore. With the original configuration, recoil would wear out the battery springs.
 
Not to hijacked the Topic, Which of the two Eotech EXPS2-0 / XPS2-0 suitable for BUIS carbine length or midlenght. thanks
 
mechanik said:
The XPS series EoTechs with the transverse battery compartment design are much more reliable than the original configuration with the batteries parallel with the bore. With the original configuration, recoil would wear out the battery springs.
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Quote from a topic on XPS from LF.net

"My device population base started at 112, got recently increased to 145 (new batch).

132 of them are t**s-up. 172hrs, mean average.

Attached to 5.56 and 7.62 platforms, shoulder-arms and crew serves.

73% of those 132 went bye-bye because the opposed battery compartment, supposed to alleviate loss of electrical contact under recoil impulse...works. You don't lose connectivity under recoil impulse any more. Instead, because the batteries are not shock-isolated properly, and because batteries aren't designed to take jarring or impact from their short axis, they warp, crack, and usually leak. So at least you lose connectivity in an innovative fashion."
 
deegee said:
Personally I don't care for Aimpoint for the points I mentioned previously.
IMHO for 100yd target shooting red-dot/holo are basically useless as the dot will usually obscure your entire paper target.
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There is no reason that a 1-4MOA dot would cover an entire piece of paper at 100m unless you have the brightness cranked up or you have a problem with your eyes. People target shoot at 100m and farther with irons...how much of the target does your front sight post cover at 100m?

deegee said:
That's why I didn't include the Mk6 in my list above on purpose.
Having seen through the glass of a S&B Short Dot, imho there is no reason to look at the Mk6.
Hence my upgrade plan for a S&B on my SL8.
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Having run the Short Dot on work guns since 06? I would favor the new Leupold variables with greater top end magnification. 4x is nice...6x or 8x is better. The glass is good on both of them....but I'm not an optics connoisseur.
 
ffgats said:
Not to hijacked the Topic, Which of the two Eotech EXPS2-0 / XPS2-0 suitable for BUIS carbine length or midlenght. thanks
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Either will work, it depends on what you are using for sights and where you want them to be in the optic for cowitnessing. The XPS has a lower base and no QD mount. EXPS2-0 has a 7mm mount. Personally I'm using an EXPS2-0 with Magpul MBUIS on my 16" LMT and it works great.
 
Big_Red said:
There is no reason that a 1-4MOA dot would cover an entire piece of paper at 100m unless you have the brightness cranked up or you have a problem with your eyes. People target shoot at 100m and farther with irons...how much of the target does your front sight post cover at 100m?
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4MOA dot covers 4" at 100yds and 8" at 200yds, that is a significant amount of the target coverage.
Maybe it's just me but I like to see the bullseye.
There is a reason why most red-dots for CQB have large 2-4 MOA dots and why most scopes don't.

Big_Red said:
Having run the Short Dot on work guns since 06? I would favor the new Leupold variables with greater top end magnification. 4x is nice...6x or 8x is better. The glass is good on both of them....but I'm not an optics connoisseur.
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OP is looking for a compact optic.
My answers were in order to try to fit his request.
 
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deegee said:
Apparently you think I'm an idiot.
Waste of my time to reply to this one...
There is a reason why most red-dots for CQB have large 2-4 MOA dots and why most scopes don't.
Yes, I'm having a bad day.



OP is looking for a compact optic, not a 12" long 56mm obj. target shooting scope.
My answers were in order to try to fit his request.
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Unless your paper target is two or four inches wide and tall then it wont be covered by an aimpoint.

And a short dot or the leupold variable are nowhere near 56mm.

Are we all discussing the same topic and optics or did you start discussing something completely different?
 
mechanik said:
Either will work, it depends on what you are using for sights and where you want them to be in the optic for cowitnessing. The XPS has a lower base and no QD mount. EXPS2-0 has a 7mm mount. Personally I'm using an EXPS2-0 with Magpul MBUIS on my 16" LMT and it works great.
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thanks, I dont have the Eotech yet, its better to ask first before buying, thats good to hear that both models can co-witness with BUIS., would it be better to get the either EXPS2-0/XPS2-0 and then find a BUIS, or the other way around.
 
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My points were in regards to what I quoted.
Perhaps Red didn't understand what I was actually saying.
OP wants to target shoot with a compact low mag. optic.

Re: dot size
A 4 MOA dot covers 4" at 100yds, unless you are shooting at a concentric ring target good luck hitting the bullseye.
Or small gongs etc. at 200/250/300yds, good luck with a 4 MOA dot.
Very few people shoot sub-MOA with irons at 100yds+. If you can, well then congrats.
Red-dots with large dots are typically for CQB, not target shooting, that's why scopes typically don't have 4 MOA dots.

Re: greater mag.
Good luck finding an 8x scope less than ~12" long. And 1-8x are pretty rare.
 
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Samson23 said:
I just noticed this today and it is quite irritating. Fortunately, everything else about the eotech as detailed in this thread makes up for it.
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With Aimpoints you don't need to worry about "powering up", they can be left on for years.

If Eotech could fix the battery compartment issues, battery draining, and get rid of the Auto Off feature they would be a lot more appealing.
 
Not sniper precision but this is an Aimpoint PRO at 110m with no magnification. 8" target.

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Honestly, the battery life argument falls flat for me. Is it impressive that the Aimpoint battery lasts 50,000(?) hours? Absolutely! That's amazing. But realistically, lets say you shoot your gun for 2 hours every session (range, etc). And lets say you have 1 session a week. That's 8 actual hours of on-time a month, so let's round it up to 10. That means your Eotech, with a life of 600 hours, would last you 60 months, i.e. 5 years on one battery with regular use! Even if you put it to higher use, lets say 10 hours a week, that's still 1 year of use on one commonly available and cheap battery.
 
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