SVT40's with FAKE Nazi Markings

[Coyote Ugly]

 

[desporterizer]

So if that kru1 stamp is fake what does a real one look like?

 

[Pblatzz]

So if that kru1 stamp is fake what does a real one look like?

Look at the size of the bird compared to the area it's stamped on. The fake is to large.

This is a real stamped proof

 

[Pblatzz]

And these arn't the only Fake Stamps out there:

Look at the Numrich Fake Nazi Stamp:

Hardened steel stamps for use on metal, wood or leather surfaces. These represent some of the typical inspector's marks found on WWII German arms such as the Mauser 98K rifle. Use for restoration purposes only. Manufactured by Numrich Gun Parts Corporation.

Nazi Eagle Stamp - Large Size

Hand Stamp, German Nazi Eagle - Use On Metal Wood Or Leather Surfaces.
Product No. 811660
$86.80


http://gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=811660&filter=amt&catid=0

I found that too. They also have been so kind as to make inspectors marks as well.

Now they have garand stamps too

Winchester proofs

 

[desporterizer]

Look at the size of the bird compared to the area it's stamped on. The fake is to large.

This is a real stamped proof

So no depot mark, just a proof mark? Btw which waa is that?

 

[diesel_weasel666]

Kinda looks like some Norc/Dom Arms stamps I have seen, as in craptacular. Maybe the Chinese are in on the fakery also....?

 

[Travis Bickle]

Look at the size of the bird compared to the area it's stamped on. The fake is to large.

This is a real stamped proof

The angle of the wings of the fake compared to this authenticated one is way off as well.

The fakes seem almost rounded out like a sideways "U" and the authentic stamp is at a much sharper angle.

 

[cantom]

Obviously fake.

The question though, is who applied the stamps, and what did they stand to gain by doing so?

If they were being sold for a premium price it might make some sense to someone.

 

[desporterizer]

Obviously fake.

The question though, is who applied the stamps, and what did they stand to gain by doing so?

If they were being sold for a premium price it might make some sense to someone.

My point exactly. I was 70% sure it was fake when i cut the original deal ( which was not for $600BTW) but thats not the whole story is it?

 

[Nabs]

Funny enough, that Numrich stamp looks to be the style that was used. Does Numrich sell the stamps ? I surely hope not as that would only add more wood to the fire for fakes to spread.

 

[CanadianAR]

So this is fake?

Your missing the point here.
Kru1 is a documented repair depot marking. Without the kru you have nothing. No part just gets a bird stamped on it. It has to have a depot code. Or in case of a german part, a waa or barrel code etc.

And I think these were being dicked with post cccp collapse. RC have been coming in for that long at least.

And sometimes the russian/ukraine exporters make sense with premium pricing and sometimes they do not. Explain the sniper rifles and such tossed in with reg RC.

 

[Flying_Finn]

China faking things????


Inconceivable!

Never happen in a million years. They would NEVER risk their good name when it comes to quality and standards. ROFLMAO

 

[CanadianAR]

Numrich DOES sell those stamps.

 

[Nabs]

Well that is a shame but I guess I am not surprised, whatever makes money right ?

Heck, just look at "SS" faked stuff and SA/Luftwaffe/Heer daggers and you have a headache for collecting. All the books printed that focus exclusively on what is real and what is fake is also a testament to this sad area of collecting. It is one of the primary reasons I continue to stay away from collecting WW2 German items.

I hate to mention it but considering my chosen collecting area it strikes a cord. Would we be seeing similar fakings for, say, Gewehr 98s considering the century anniversary of WW1 is right around the corner ? What about Lee Enfields too ? The list potentially goes on...

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Obviously fake.

The question though, is who applied the stamps, and what did they stand to gain by doing so?

If they were being sold for a premium price it might make some sense to someone.

Maybe the Apprentice Faker needed to get his hours in on the Fake Stamps and just needed to do 4 more hump jobs, before moving on to bigger works of humping!

 

[Pblatzz]

So no depot mark, just a proof mark? Btw which waa is that?

To funny, I forgot to add the "German test/capture" to clarify. As said on page 2, the image is from Mosin Nagnet.com, I add they quote the stamp as a "SVT-40 Ishevsk with a German test/capture proof overstamped to indicate use by the Wermacht."

Hope that clears it up.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

My point exactly. I was 70% sure it was fake when i cut the original deal ( which was not for $600BTW) but thats not the whole story is it?

Is the other 30% broken down to be Wishful Thinking, A Pot of Gold at the End of the Rainbow and hoping the Tooth Fairy exists?

 

[Remembering]

I might get a set of those stamps and yes, some of you may judge me but when I own the only Nazi captured '53 Tula SKS, you'll be sorry and I'll be rich

 

[Coyote Ugly]

You guys need to stop looking at your Fake SVT40's with your Rose-Colored Glasses! (Although they might look better that way)

 

[5440fight]

China faking things????


Inconceivable!

Never happen in a million years. They would NEVER risk their good name when it comes to quality and standards. ROFLMAO

????? China????? Hmm, Canadian education isn't what it used to be...