SVT40's with FAKE Nazi Markings

AgentCQ,

It's just a shame that a couple of SVT40 rifles have to spoil the broth for the collectors. At least it keeps us all on our toes.
Never a Dull Moment. Fakery is Alive and Well, somewhere in the world.

Hopefully you did notify the Two Buyers of the Problem? It's just the RIGHT thing and the only DECENT thing to do.
You should notify the Seller you bought them from and get a refund or exchange for yourself for the 2 duds, or Turds, whatever you wish to call them.
 
Nabs said:
I'm not expert on WW2 German markings but didn't Germany take in, inspect (and mark), and reissued equipment during the early stages of the war ? I can imagine this was dropped later on but I can see a large pile of Mosin 91.30s and SVT38s/40s being taken in during 1941's push into Russia, inspected and potentially marked by the inspector with a WaA, and re-issued to the troops on the battle line.

Just my two cents worth.
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Yes, until mid-44 they did. The very great majority of captured SVT's would have been marked on the WRIST behind the trigger guard. A smaller number who required some level of repair at the field depot level would have gotten a small WaA eagle as per the gunboards photo posted above.

The stamp on the sellers rifles, however, does not match any known capture stamping patter that has recognized provenance. 'nuff said.
 
Hitzy said:
So let's see....you didn't bother to verify if the stamps were real before listing then as legitimate capture rifles? But now you are offended that the question has come up?
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Agent does sound a little confused, bitter and offended from his posts. Maybe this will cheer him up! :D

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The two buyers have been contacted. I acknowledge members comments. The dealer does not know or care about markings (he thought rifles in this crate were export marked "DE 09 UA" - which they were not).

These may be 'fake' markings, I still have doubts and from experience, I believe these may be legit (due to the finish and multiple documented variations in WWII Reich markings - including variations in stamp size and poor placements of stampings).

Let dead dogs lie.

I would not knowingly mis-represent collector kit/rifles.

I appreciate intelligent comments made from several members throughout.
 
Hahahaha people getting caught then back pedaling to save face make me laugh sooooo hard.

IBTL!!!
 
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
 
Coyote Ugly said:
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
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Truth as it relates to the past is in a constant state of flux as the long forgotten is rediscovered.

Desporterizer
milsurp collector (1972-long f**ing time, I hope )
 
As a sidenote to some of the comments in this thread....though I have no knowledge of the subject in question itself.....I have dealt with agentcq in the purchase of a German collector rifle and it was not only a seamless transaction....but I can guarantee he knows more about a lot of the higher end milsurps than most (I said most, don't get your panties in a wad) others on the bandwagon in this thread.
 
It's too easy to be duped (buyers, sellers, collectors), It's even harder when repro stamps are being made and sold at parts suppliers.
 
Bird is the Word!

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Pblatzz said:
It's the size of the bird that is the problem, the real one is smaller.

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