New AR failure to fire **Solved operator error**

However this is an operator issue not an NEA issue. Why is it that some people need to decide that was a QC issue? This used to be a helpful community, I only hope that it can be again.
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Good to hear that it was a simple fix and refreshing to hear that it was not, in fact, a QC/bad parts related issue. :)
 
Tiwaz said:
However this is an operator issue not an NEA issue. Why is it that some people need to decide that was a QC issue? This used to be a helpful community, I only hope that it can be again.
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Glad to hear you got your gun sorted out. There are Haters and Fanboys that like nothing more than bashing each other and the products they support/hate and take any opportunity to do so.The site is still very helpful but the cost is to put up with the crap posted.
 
Tiwaz said:
Ok thanks for the helpful suggestions, I humbly admit that the light strikes are probably caused by over lubing the firing pin. I stripped the bolt for a good cleaning last night and the sludge that came out of the firing pin channel was amazing. Then I remembered when I first cleaned and lubed it I had a heavy coat of grease on the firing pin I forgot to wipe it off before putting it in the bolt. I removed it and wiped it down without thinking about it any more. I guess enough of the grease came off inside the channel to be an issue.

However this is an operator issue not an NEA issue. Why is it that some people need to decide that was a QC issue? This used to be a helpful community, I only hope that it can be again.
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good to hear it was just the "hydraulic pin" effect I mentioned...

glad its sorted out tiwaz, have fun shooting man
 
Tiwaz said:
Ok thanks for the helpful suggestions, I humbly admit that the light strikes are probably caused by over lubing the firing pin. I stripped the bolt for a good cleaning last night and the sludge that came out of the firing pin channel was amazing. Then I remembered when I first cleaned and lubed it I had a heavy coat of grease on the firing pin I forgot to wipe it off before putting it in the bolt. I removed it and wiped it down without thinking about it any more. I guess enough of the grease came off inside the channel to be an issue.

However this is an operator issue not an NEA issue. Why is it that some people need to decide that was a QC issue? This used to be a helpful community, I only hope that it can be again.
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I know some use grease on there bolts but stick with oil and you wont have any more issues
 
man I remember when everyone was excited over NEA rifles a few months back.

the company made many mistakes I think in marketing and QC

One day I am sure they will have sorted out their troubles and make a fine AR, but the reputation is stained for a long time to come
 
I doubt they'll go under anytime soon.
Even though they had many troubles, mainly around QC and PR, they are selling rifles and demand is more than supply.
They seem to be improving their QC a lot, and their PR is good now that they are no longer on CGN. (Unfortunately for them, there is absolutely no winning here on CGN with the amount of hate)

I suspect they will continue to have a few problem, and improve significantly in the next year.
 
easy said:
Or maybe, they'll go under. They already quit CGN.
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I doubt very much that that will happen...they are seriously backordered on guns and I believe they are committed for about a million dollars worth of product this year.

The black rifles forum on CGN is a very small part of the world. Reviews may be poor here but evidently they are not feeling a lot of blowback from that, financially speaking.
 
Wow, it turns out it's a simple user error. There are some real excitable children on this site. I feel smarter every time I log on. What say we try and help the guy, or joke about it, because laughter is a good thing. Spitting rage and derision randomly whenever the oppurtunity pesents itself does nothing to help the OP, or improve the site experience. This sh!t is getting really old, and tiresome to read, whether we agree or disagree over the subject. Does every day have to be a foam over muslims, NEA, and drug laws, or can we go back to the good old days (sad, I never though I miss it) of debating bullpups, and bear defence?

Op: Glad you figured it out, enjoy your toy!
 
Tiwaz said:
Ok thanks for the helpful suggestions, I humbly admit that the light strikes are probably caused by over lubing the firing pin. I stripped the bolt for a good cleaning last night and the sludge that came out of the firing pin channel was amazing. Then I remembered when I first cleaned and lubed it I had a heavy coat of grease on the firing pin I forgot to wipe it off before putting it in the bolt. I removed it and wiped it down without thinking about it any more. I guess enough of the grease came off inside the channel to be an issue.

However this is an operator issue not an NEA issue. Why is it that some people need to decide that was a QC issue? This used to be a helpful community, I only hope that it can be again.
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In three different posts you clearly state that you properly cleaned the rifle, including pulling the bolt carrier group apart, cleaning and inspecting it. Now, miraculously, there is sludge in the FP channel from a heavy coat of grease you forgot about and the issue being operator error?

Firing a few boxes of ammo doesn't cake up the inside of the bolt enough to obstruct the firing pin no matter how much you lube it, or the amount of CLP that is sprayed into the action after thousands of rounds before cleaning would constantly malfunction every AR on the line in CF inventory. Could there be more going on with the light primer strikes than just a dirty FP channel.

Tiwaz said:
OK new AR, I put the first 50 rounds through without an issue now I am getting light primer strikes about 10% of the time. Different Mags 6 Pmags , different ammo (Winchester White box 55gr FMJ & PMC X-Tac 62gr).
Before anybody asks the rifle was properly cleaned and lubed before shooting.
The bolt has fully cycled, just getting light strikes. Where do I start trouble shooting?
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Tiwaz said:
I was following a break in procedure of 5 and clean for the first 30 Rounds then I went to 25 and clean. Each time I cleaned I pulled the BCG apart and cleaned/inspected it as well.
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Tiwaz said:
a) Hammer spring legs are in the correct location
b) yes there are marks on the primer the firing pin has been lubed as per manufactures instructions (very light film of CLP) nothing into the firing pin channel though.
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ok easy, your right, hes just a paid shill and he is brain washing us by adding fluoride to the kool aid...


I think some people missed the point of what jules was saying
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Does every day have to be a foam over muslims, NEA, and drug laws, or can we go back to the good old days (sad, I never though I miss it) of debating bullpups, and bear defence?
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WHAT??!!!

NEA is owned by Muslims and they are manufacturing bullpups to defend people against pot-growing bears!!!???

heh heh ;)
 
misanthropist said:
I doubt very much that that will happen...they are seriously backordered on guns and I believe they are committed for about a million dollars worth of product this year.
The black rifles forum on CGN is a very small part of the world. Reviews may be poor here but evidently they are not feeling a lot of blowback from that, financially speaking.
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hdave said:
I doubt they'll go under anytime soon.
Even though they had many troubles, mainly around QC and PR, they are selling rifles and demand is more than supply.
They seem to be improving their QC a lot, and their PR is good now that they are no longer on CGN. (Unfortunately for them, there is absolutely no winning here on CGN with the amount of hate)
I suspect they will continue to have a few problem, and improve significantly in the next year.
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Maybe, maybe not. Difficult to believe anything posted these days. Usually, function follows form.
 
easy said:
In three different posts you clearly state that you properly cleaned the rifle, including pulling the bolt carrier group apart, cleaning and inspecting it. Now, miraculously, there is sludge in the FP channel from a heavy coat of grease you forgot about and the issue being operator error?

Firing a few boxes of ammo doesn't cake up the inside of the bolt enough to obstruct the firing pin no matter how much you lube it, or the amount of CLP that is sprayed into the action after thousands of rounds before cleaning would constantly malfunction every AR on the line in CF inventory. Could there be more going on with the light primer strikes than just a dirty FP channel.
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Yep you got me. I guess I didn't do a very good job of cleaning the bolt those times. I hadn't pulled the extractor out those times when I finally did I could see the sludge in the channel. After seeing that I thoroughly clean everything and re assembled it with a dry firing pin. Then I lightly lubed the BCG and shot 85 flawless rounds. I would have shot more but I ran out of factory ammo ( I don't I could stand the discussion if I was using reloads:rolleyes:) So yeah I think that I phucked up and was the cause of the issue.
 
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