UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

Peep sight on regular ML stock

It don't work. Someone else has already mentioned the Steve's Gunz bolt-mounted "safety-replacement' peep sight. I've tried it with a (more robust) Skinner's peep sight mounted in the barrel's dovetail, and the aperture is just too damned small when it's that far from your eyes. And I actually removed the aperture itself ... effectively creating a bigger-holed ghost-ring sight ... and it still didn't work.
 
Try this minimalist "carry"

G.Mitchell said:
I wear a MOLLE/PALS waist belt pack when in the woods so I rigged up a way to carry my Ranch Hand on my pack belt.

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Basically it is a webbing weapon catch with a side release buckle to release the gun.

I made this with two holes that I can attach to a MOLLE LOK for use on my waist belts or to a Tek Lok for use with my belt.

I wear a 1.75" wilderness instructors belt and with the tek lok the gun carries well on a belt and isn't too heavy.

Here is a grainy photo of me carrying mine with my belt slide on just a standard 1.75" gun belt...

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Just my improvised carrier...

I am adding a full length stock and then I will have to rig something else up...
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Hi Mr. Mitchell,

Like you, I've had my Ranch Hand for a while and have been exploring various carry-options.

And then yesterday, down on the banks of the Oldman River ... an Aha moment.

A very cool couple from Calgary often spend the weekends there in their trailer on my neighbour's ranch. The guy is a retired cop, and makes beautiful knives and sheaths. When they saw my Ranch Hand about a month ago, it was love at first sight ... his wife often spends a lot of time on her own, scouring the area for native artifacts. This is pretty raw here, and bears (even grizzlies) are a factor. She (just like me) carries pepper spray, but her eyes just lit-up when she saw the little Rossi.

When they returned the next weekend, it was with a new RH and an almost completed holster (similar to many that are available online).

I was down there yesterday (on my quad), and the holster was complete ... gorgeous and heavy duty. The guy had also experimented with a Sam Browne type of shoulder belt (that I'd been discussing/suggesting) to help support the weight of the holster on the belt.

Here's where it gets interesting. The lady mentioned that it all works ... but that the holster feels constraining/limiting/stiff in some ways ... and she actually preferred simply clipping the shoulder strap to the firearm's saddle ring and slinging the RH over her left shoulder ... with the strap crossing across (front and back) from her left shoulder down to her right hip ... where the gun is suspended.

They'd already realized that the gun could be raised and fired (quite steadily) without unslinging it ... actually using the strap's tension to help.

The only downside ... other than the fact that the gun isn't protected (not a deal-breaker, really) was the fact that the firearm was unrestrained and a bit floppy. She showed me, but it wasn't too bad ... and then I had a great idea.

Last summer I'd realized that a very small loop of climbing webbing (two or three inches in diameter ... secured with a tri-glided nylon buckle) on my Uncle Mike's pepper-spray/knife belt was perfect to provide a way to temporarily hold/stash my RH.

(About once a year I order 30 m of that premium nylon 24 mm flat climbing webbing from MEC ($1.40 / metre) ... along with a couple dozen National Moulding 25 mm buckles ... 50 cents for each of the two M/F parts ... and Fastex tri glides ... 25 cents each to attach the webbing to the female half of the buckle) ... and there is nothing here on the ranch that is not secured ... on the deck, on my boat, on the quad, on my packs, even the ice-cleats on my Muck boots ... with perfectly-sized straps. The flat climbing webbing is easy to find on the MEC website and the pack repair hardware is at hxxp://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Packs/Accessories.jsp?showall=40&productCount=56&currentPage=1 )

It took about one second to unsnap/remove the small strap (about 6" long) from one of the rifle mounts on my quad's handlbars, and I suggested that the husband loop it onto the small belt that was holding-up his wife's jeans ... right where the firearm was hanging ... and then we just clipped it snugly around the gun.

The gun was secured to the belt so it didn't move, but the weight was not on the belt ... it was supported by the left shoulder ... far away. And the strap allowed the firearm to pivot as required ... for kneeling/riding/whatever. And the best part? It takes just a second to reach down with the right hand and (with thumb and trigger-finger) "pop" the buckle open ... even while the hand's three other fingers are starting the grasp the stock.

She thought it was awesome.

As I said, the firearm is exposed to the elements and assorted dings/bumps ... but a gun like that looks better with a little patina, right?

I think I'll recommend that a piece of suitable tape be used to close/cover the firearm's muzzle ... not a bad idea on any gun used in the field ... but especially so in this case. Also, the same MEC webpage that has the climbing webbing also has a robust plastic "snaphook retainer" (50 cents) for fastening the strap to the Ranch Hand's receiver without scratching it.
 
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Gatehouse said:
boomer, do you have a pic? Sounds good.
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Actually, I was thinking of that ... but I'd feel awkward asking. This lady is the hottest-looking grandmother I've ever met ... very fit, perfect blonde hair, deep tan, clear blue eyes (she's originally from Holland) and a showgirl's figure ... and she dresses in a tasteful but very flattering way.

Simply put ... a real classy broad who's spunky enough to wander around alone in serious bear habitat. She grew up in Colorado, which may explain a few things.

So, that is why I went into such extreme detail when I described the how-to of the idea.

Plus, I've never mastered the picture-posting routine.

It's easy enough to try yourself ... at very little cost. Get the climbing-webbing and buckles and tri-glides from MEC ... guaranteed quality ... as well as the strong nylon/plastic swivel-snap (same stuff as the National Moulding buckles) so it won't scratch the RH's receiver.
 
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dbxdiver said:
the absolute dumbest designed gun I have ever held in my hands I dare any one to draw aim and fire and hit anything at more then a few feet this is not a bush gun a 12 guage of any diesign is a much better choice as a bush gun even with a pistol grip.
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Have you tried one? Do you own one?

I can easily hit targets out to 25m. :sniper:

This isn't ideal but I believe it is the smallest and lightest non restricted option that comes in serious calibers.

Thanks for sharing your opinion but MOST here would disagree with you... :stirthepot2:
 
Boomer49, I made my own single point sling out of spare parts I had kicking around, the sling combined with the buckle loop "holster" work extremely well for sure.

When I carry the belt loop only on one of my packs the gun rides very comfortable without a sling but that is because Kifaru did such an awesome job making their waist belts.
 
Can-down said:
Maybe you should try one before you judge.
Posted this many times but this ones for you.....This was my second trip to the range last year with the .44mag. .357/.38sp is even easier to shoot and hit with due to reduced recoil.

The other thing to think about is that even if you can't handle the recoil, there is nothing stopping you from installing a regular butt stock.

First shot hit chest sized plate at 100yards
Second shot hit chest sized plate at 50yards
Third shot hit can at 25 yards

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Video killed the radio, that pic shows nothing, what recoil? it is a 44 cal at best and if it shoots so good why would i put a stock on it? and i have held one and that is why i say it is a dumb design no matter how hard people try to justify thier bad purchase.
 
You are welcome to your own opinion; however why bother posting to this thread if you are so against this gun design? Why are you even following this thread?

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a "bad purchase" and why do I need to justify any gun I deem suitable for my uses.
 
G.Mitchell said:
You are welcome to your own opinion; however why bother posting to this thread if you are so against this gun design? Why are you even following this thread?

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a "bad purchase" and why do I need to justify any gun I deem suitable for my uses.
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Very classy responses from you and CanDown and Kanaima ... and a big "Well done!" on your use of the semi-colon with the word "however" ... lotta dudes think the word is one a them conjunctions!

Maybe Buddy has gone too deep too long too often ... or maybe is just having a bad day. It happens.

Bin there myself:)
 
Funny how haters got to hate. I could never ever imagine sh!tting on somebody else for a decision they made (unless it was obviously stupid, like jumping into a shark tank at feeding time with a nose bleed) and even then I'd probably think it not say it! And I think it's really obvious that those of us that do own AND shoot the Ranch Hand, really, really like it. And it's really funny how the internet makes some people super, amazingly intelligent enough to have more righteous opinions than others. My decision to buy the Ranch Hand was stupid because Mr. Bends says so...wow! I wish he had a blog so I could hang on to his every word and be a more smarter person...
 
When talking dumb design in the case of Ranch Hands, the silly part is the
revoltingly short butt stock. For us longtime target shooters, hunters and military
trained folks, the short butt on these rifles seriously hinders proper fit and aim
of the weapon in a real world, fast paced, do or die situation.

It's fine to have fun with a stock Ranch Hand at the range, but for hunting or self
defence scenarios, you gotta have full control of the weapon to ensure precice
hits when time matters most. All my Ranchy's have full butts for that purpose.

Besides, a carbine butt on a leg holstered Ranchy won't get in the way while
fishing or doin' chores for the most part. ;)
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
When talking dumb design in the case of Ranch Hands, the silly part is the
revoltingly short butt stock. For us longtime target shooters, hunters and military
trained folks, the short butt on these rifles seriously hinders proper fit and aim
of the weapon in a real world, fast paced, do or die situation.

It's fine to have fun with a stock Ranch Hand at the range, but for hunting or self
defence scenarios, you gotta have full control of the weapon to ensure precice
hits when time matters most. All my Ranchy's have full butts for that purpose.

Besides, a carbine butt on a leg holstered Ranchy won't get in the way while
fishing or doin' chores for the most part. ;)
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"To each his own."

It works for me. And I'm an honest-to-Gawd ranch hand ... 4000 effen mountainous forest/meadow acres ... pure wilderness abutting the Forestry Reserve.

It "bears" :) repeating ... "To each his own."

Or "her own" ... as in the case of one of my friends.

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.... so people are b*tching that they got it classified as sub 26 inches as non-res.....

If you want it with a full butt stock, buy one... problem solved!
I personally like mine. I'll be building a butt extension for mine, but I love the short butt too. And it isn't at all bad to aim - once I get the sites fixed it'll be sweet.
 
dbxdiver said:
Video killed the radio, that pic shows nothing, what recoil? it is a 44 cal at best and if it shoots so good why would i put a stock on it? and i have held one and that is why i say it is a dumb design no matter how hard people try to justify thier bad purchase.
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You need to click on the picture to see the video champ......might as well tell you to click on the icon bottom right to enlarge as well once/if you figure it out.
Good luck.
 
just came on and saw the comments my post created I in no way called any person on this forum "dumb" in fact i come on here and have been helped by many on many subjects. I only stated that in my opinion it is not the gun for me, IE: "dumb design" if you like it go for it, for all those that have made refrence to me being bent or too deep too often maybe you are right, But it was all done for your well being, Can-down saw the video and it was 21 sec 3 shots but nothing showing impact.
If I offended anyone I am sorry.

last post on this matter.
 
There's the verdict !

boomer49 said:
"To each his own."

It works for me. And I'm an honest-to-Gawd ranch hand ... 4000 effen mountainous forest/meadow acres ... pure wilderness abutting the Forestry Reserve.

It "bears" :) repeating ... "To each his own."

Or "her own" ... as in the case of one of my friends.

Subject Is Closed
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