Value of a Shooter Garand?

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So I built a Shooter garand on a Breda action a while back, The barrel I believe is springfield (dont have it with me to check) And is in really good condition, near new. The wood is what I would say Average for a milsurp gun not terribly banged up but has deffinately seen service. The op-rod, trigger group, gas cylinder and all internals are in good shape.
For spare parts I have quite a few internal bits and pieces, an extra bolt, an extra set of rear sights.
The thought of armacoating the barreled action had crossed my mind, Not sure if that would lower value as its not a matching gun anyways but would look nice.
So what kind of ballpark would I be looking at for price for it all as a package?
 
So I built a Shooter garand on a Breda action a while back, The barrel I believe is springfield (dont have it with me to check) And is in really good condition, near new. The wood is what I would say Average for a milsurp gun not terribly banged up but has deffinately seen service. The op-rod, trigger group, gas cylinder and all internals are in good shape.
For spare parts I have quite a few internal bits and pieces, an extra bolt, an extra set of rear sights.
The thought of armacoating the barreled action had crossed my mind, Not sure if that would lower value as its not a matching gun anyways but would look nice.
So what kind of ballpark would I be looking at for price for it all as a package?

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I'm using a First mill, I didn't make much tooling myself the odd clamp or fixture. I guess some people just can't help being dinks.

Yea some guys one here are really a**holes lol.. 95% of the time they are users with thousands of posts , they must have no lives except to sit on CGN all day and be a**holes .. If they talked to people like that in public they would be coming home with black eyes daily , but because they are hiding behind their computer they have the balls to be dicks like that.
 
I'm using a First mill, I didn't make much tooling myself the odd clamp or fixture. I guess some people just can't help being dinks.

Yea some guys one here are really a**holes lol.. 95% of the time they are users with thousands of posts , they must have no lives except to sit on CGN all day and be a**holes .. If they talked to people like that in public they would be coming home with black eyes daily , but because they are hiding behind their computer they have the balls to be dicks like that.

Relax Rob and Boss, and don't insult Smellie, as you both just put your foot in your mouth by saying something stupid.

Smellie's probably one of the greatest contributors here for Milsurps and History.
 
Relax Rob and Boss, and don't insult Smellie, as you both just put your foot in your mouth by saying something stupid.

Smellie's probably one of the greatest contributors here for Milsurps and History.

No kidding, seems to be alot of thin skinned a**holes on CGN these days.
 
Really guys, I ask a simple question and somebody gives me a smart ass answer then I'm the ####### for playing the game. Jesus. Lots of the guys that apprenticed me along the years were #######s too didn't mean they don't have knowledge.
 
Really guys, I ask a simple question and somebody gives me a smart ass answer then I'm the a**hole for playing the game. Jesus. Lots of the guys that apprenticed me along the years were a**holes too didn't mean they don't have knowledge.


I recently bought a refinished (stock and finish), re-barreled, '44 Springfield on the EE for $1000, it was one of the better priced ones (still EE price though)
 
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FWIW within the past 4 months I sold 3 nice Breda Garands with sound barrels, re-parked receivers, mostly Springfield parts, Danish beechwood stocks, with either NOS or re-parked metal parts for $1000 a pop. With NOS or as new barrels and new wood, I'd probably be looking at $1300 or so in today's market.

Those of us who make a hobby of assembling Garands or other MILSURPs from parts on receivers should probably be called gun "plumbers", rather than gun "builders" by reason of using a big wrench and vice to get the receiver and barrel together as a starting point. After putting together a pee-pot of various MILSURPs, incl Garands, M1 Carbines, M1903s and No4 Lee-Enfields I still like to call it "building" a rifle though. Call it what you like, it does take the proper tooling and some skill and experience to do it right.

If you want to refinish the metal on a Garand get it parkerized. That's what the military did.
 
I can most assuredly tell you that smellie is not an @sshole.

1) he puts up with us unworthies on milsurps
2) he constantly contributes to every member's learning not only about the history of their rifle, but also history itself.
3) I think he was actually asking if you HAD hand built built one, not poking fun at your choice of words.

as for value:

If hes such a knowledgeable nice guy why did he not just leave constructive and helping comment for the op ? If you think that comment was not insulting learn how to read ,, He was being a #### to someone because they dont live and breathe milsurps .. This is called elitism , its rampant on CGN.. Is this site not here to help people that are getting into the sport and hobby ? or just to belittle people that are less knowledgeable?
 
FWIW within the past 4 months I sold 3 nice Breda Garands with sound barrels, re-parked receivers, mostly Springfield parts, Danish beechwood stocks, with either NOS or re-parked metal parts for $1000 a pop. With NOS or as new barrels and new wood, I'd probably be looking at $1300 or so in today's market.

Those of us who make a hobby of assembling Garands or other MILSURPs from parts on receivers should probably be called gun "plumbers", rather than gun "builders" by reason of using a big wrench and vice to get the receiver and barrel together as a starting point. After putting together a pee-pot of various MILSURPs, incl Garands, M1 Carbines, M1903s and No4 Lee-Enfields I still like to call it "building" a rifle though. Call it what you like, it does take the proper tooling and some skill and experience to do it right.

If you want to refinish the metal on a Garand get it parkerized. That's what the military did.

Ok this is what i call a constructive and helping comment ..
 
This is very interesting. We have someone who took a bunch of parts, put them together with the obvious intention of selling the completed rifle, but I am wondering just what the quality of the finished product is. More important, is it safe?

Many of the parts available were decomissioned by the Military, and sold for scrap iron. This is because they were subjected to putting in a big pile, and being burned, thus bringing into question the structure of the steel.

Then we have the question of timing and headspacing. Putting together a rifle is NOT like assembling a tricycle for the neighbours kids, and there is a lot more involved than the simple assembling of various parts of different manufacturers. If you do not know what you are doing, there is 60,000 pounds per square inch of pressure that is six inches in front of your nose when you pull the trigger.

The next thing I do find a concern with is that this rifle, sold another two or three times, will probably be accepted as a genuine article instead of a parts gun, along with an appropriate story of course. If something breaks loose, who is going to be responsible for a possible injury caused by something assembled in a person's basement.

Now, before someone with a whole 25 posts starts flaming me, I will say that I have gunsmithed rifles since the 1960s, have taken a Millitary Armourers Course, and I presently have a 2000 square foot workshop complete with Welders, two metal lathes, a milling machine and two seven inch shapers, along with other things, along with appropriate tooling for rifles that I work on. I am also a retired Welder who has a Canadian Inter-provincial ticket, along with a "B" Pressure ticket, so I am quite familiar with steels and the affect of heat on them.

Just because someone with a whole 24 posts to his credit does not agree with another member, it is a poor excuse to resort to name calling and ridicule. Especially when the Member he does it to is a highly respected Member of this Forum whose knowledge is light years ahead of the ones doing the name calling.

SMELLIE, for the record, graduated from University with a degree in History. His University Thesis on Military Small Arms from 1812 to the Second Battle of Ypres is still quoted today. His contributions to "Cartridges of the World" are acknowledged by the author, and right now, some of his research papers are being used by the Smithsonian Institute as a reference for a project.

SMELLIE has visited the Pattern Room in England, while studying the Maxim machine guns, and while there sat down and wrote a complete operating Manual for the 1899 Maxim machine gun, using the reference notes he took with him. He is an acknowledged expert on the Lee Enfield System, the Ross rifle, and the Maxim machine gun.

He has been a Newspaper Editor, and conducted many interviews with WWI Veterans, and he owns his own small publishing company. His own personal Military firearms collection has in it weapons and models that 90% of the Members here have not even heard of.

SMELLIE, in his day, was one of the better target shooters in Canada. His scores were good enough to qualify him for Bisley, but like many of us, could not go because of financial reasons, where it would have cost us over two months wages for expenses. He was one of the shooting partners of William (Bisley) Brown, a six times member and three times Captain of Canada's Bisley team.

I wonder what the qualifications are of someone who calls a person like SMELLIE an "a**hole" and a "dink".
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