Duty on shot shells for US bird hunters coming to Canada

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I have some friends from the Excited States coming up here to go bird hunting next week. Anyone know what the duty free amount of shells is for them and the duty rate they pay on shells over and above their regular allowable limit. I have never done it and have no idea beyond the need for them to get their firearms declaration. I have talked to US hunters that had to pay duty but they never actually said how much they got dinged.

Thanks in advance.
 
Not sure off hand but last time I called the border (about bringing unmounted tires over) they were very friendly and got me the information quickly (Queenston / Lewiston bridge). I'd just call their crossing destination tomorrow and talk to the horse directly.
 
I was under the assumption that not even US citizens could bring over shot shells (ammunition) without an export permit. I could be wrong though. I do not think it is our customs that has an issue with it. I believe it is state side that does.
 
Buying or Importing Ammunition

A PAL or a confirmed Non-Resident Firearm Declaration or a Temporary Borrowing Licence (for Non‑Residents) is necessary to buy ammunition in Canada. Limited amounts may be brought into Canada with you. Please note that ammunition should not be loaded in a firearm when arriving at an entry point.

Natural Resources Canada (NRCan) is responsible for regulating the import of ammunition under the Explosives Act. Contact NRCan for information on how much ammunition can be imported for personal use. For information on how much ammunition can be imported duty-free, please contact the CBSA.
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/visit-visite-eng.htm

Importing Firearm Parts and Ammunition

Prohibited ammunition or firearm parts that are classified as prohibited devices, including handgun barrels that are 105 mm or less in length or parts made exclusively for a fully automatic firearm, cannot be imported into Canada.

A valid firearms licence under Canadian law is not required to import non-prohibited firearm parts (except for a frame or receiver). However, an export permit from the other country may be required.

The Explosives Act sets limits on the amount of ammunition and ammunition components that may be imported without an import permit. Generally, the Explosives Act allows individuals to import up to 5,000 cartridges of non-prohibited ammunition for personal use without an import permit.

More information is available on the website of Natural Resources Canada (NRCan), or by calling the Explosives Regulatory Division of NRCan at the appropriate number listed on their website. An import permit may be required for smaller amounts in order to comply with the laws of the exporting country.
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/import-importer-eng.htm

Importation of Ammunition

Anyone is permitted to import up to 5000 rounds of ammunition for personal use into Canada. An importation permit is required to import larger quantities. This restriction also applies to Americans citizens passing through Canada to reach Alaska.
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http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/minerals-metals/explosives/4294?destination=node/4294

United States Residents Entering Canada

Hunters may bring in, duty-free, 200 rounds of ammunition; participants in a competition, 1,500 rounds. A valid license or declaration must be shown to purchase ammunition. If you hunt in Canada's parks or game reserves, you may have to get a hunting license from each province or territory in which you plan to hunt.
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http://www.aaa.com/aaa/Traveler/US_to_Canada.html
 
awndray......... thanks for the info. Will call CBSA to see what the duty rate is on ammo over and above the 200 rounds of duty free.
 
Get a trap shoot/sporting clay invitation from your local club......nobody will know you don't use 3.5 T shot for that. That'll up them to 1500 of good stuff and they can buy some trap loads up here.
 
Drillbit thanks but that is not an option. There is no club where I live....... long ways from a town of any size. They are just wondering if the ammo they have to pay duty on will end up being more expensive than just buying it up here. The other problem is I can't guarantee they will be able to even find what they want around where I live if they do not bring it with them.

I'll see what CBSA can tell me for a rate on the ammo and take it from there.

Thanks guys.
 
They may only cross the border with 10 boxes of ammo per trip/crossing. Buddy of mine comes up from NH each season and that is the limit he is allowed to bring in period, duties have nothing to do with maximum permitted amounts of ammo they can bring.
 
That is interesting as the 10 boxes is 250 rounds which does not conform with any of the numbers from either Canadian or US info sites I have looked at so far.
 
the spank said:
They may only cross the border with 10 boxes of ammo per trip/crossing. Buddy of mine comes up from NH each season and that is the limit he is allowed to bring in period, duties have nothing to do with maximum permitted amounts of ammo they can bring.
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Thats funny...10 boxes is 250rds...yet there is a quote on the first page that states ANYONE can bring up to 5000 rds of ammo without an import permit...So, the first 200rds are duty free, anything 201-5000 is subject to duty.

Pretty simple ****.
 
Importing applies to Canadian residents visiting the US and coming back home with ammunition. Exporting applies to US residents visiting Canada with their own ammunition.
 
awndray said:
Importing applies to Canadian residents visiting the US and coming back home with ammunition. Exporting applies to US residents visiting Canada with their own ammunition.
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Nope. Importing (in this case) is ANYONE taking items into Canada. Exporting (in this case) is ANYONE taking items out of the US. The residency or citizenship of the individual does not enter into the definitions.
 
awndray said:
Importing applies to Canadian residents visiting the US and coming back home with ammunition. Exporting applies to US residents visiting Canada with their own ammunition.
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Importing is bringing something into a country, regardless of citizenship...Exporting is leaving with something, regardless of citizenship.

I fail to see where citizenship is specified in the Explosives Act regulations for IMPORT of ammunition for personal use.
 
My bad. I'm confusing myself, lol. Regardless, the limit is 200 for non-residents.
cbsa.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5044-eng.pdf
 
Typically a question asked on CGN is a mess, I should have known better and will not do it again. Awndray, thank you......... knew right away you had things in order.

Spoke to customs........... here is the skinny.

200 rounds duty/tax free for importers hunting, people going to a shoot can bring up to 1500 rounds duty free
For hunters, more than 200 rounds are subject to PST and GST, no actual duty fee beyond the taxes.

From the Yank side of the equation, they can bring ammo for personal use without an export/import situation up to 1000 rounds
 
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