Should I buy a NEA AR?

blaxsun said:
That's not entirely accurate... Apparently a few threads criticizing NEA popped up a few of the SA and NZ black rifle forums, but they were quickly deleted. I'm not inferring that the reception was overly negative, just that the NEA guns weren't universally received without incident, either.
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did you see these threads or you heard they existed and got deleted? (seriously)


Runningfool said:
Really? Why is this kind of BS still being posted? The only "risk" you take by buying an NEA-15 is you may have to utilize their 100% lifetime warranty and you may have to wait a week while they send you some new parts. It's unlikely IMO, but you might. If you can't afford that kind of "risk" then you've got bigger problems than what AR to buy.
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agreed... their warranty being simple is another reason im getting one.

i had to have glock parts replaced (ok ok..its a gen 4....) but it took 4 weeks to get a spring...if something ever happens to the frame im SOL....ship a frame cross border...no thanks...
 
blaxsun said:
No, I'm not a member of either. Someone who is, though - and also a member of CGN - posted a few of the details in another thread a while back. I can't recall the specifics, just that there some negative reactions in other forums as well.
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thanks for the info. ill print it out and use it as a target for my NEA :ar15:
 
Runningfool said:
Really? Why is this kind of BS still being posted? The only "risk" you take by buying an NEA-15 is you may have to utilize their 100% lifetime warranty and you may have to wait a week while they send you some new parts. It's unlikely IMO, but you might. If you can't afford that kind of "risk" then you've got bigger problems than what AR to buy.
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Do you consider the risk of may have to send it incand miss a week acceptable with a brand new in the box rifle? if it happened with any brand Id be pissed. But I could understand that the very rare one can happen. The problem is when new problems kept surfacing on brand new guns. Yes they fixed them, yes they continued to improve. But so far we've seen quality control issues, asembly issues, finish issues, trigger weight issues (Dont give me this overseas customers military trigger crap, because any military using these rifles needs their heads examined) and false endorements of these rifles by those associated to them as if they were regular customers.

Now if you believe all the issues are fixed this time then good for you. This was the case previously after every fix until the new issue surfaced. New improved!!

Now let's keep in mind I was really hoping for NEA to be excellent. I wanted one of these rifles. I will take another look after all the bugs are worked out. It's still too soon in my opinion. Frankly as I stated before I don't want the cost in time or money (shipping or driving to a store) along with a week off that has hit some of the Beta, err "early adopters".

If yours works great, then congratulations. I trully hope they get to the point were these issues are a thing of the past. At that point I may very well get one.
 
One last point. I don't buy any product for their warranty. I buy a product with quality and a low problem rate. The warranty is there to keep customers from being completely pissed at a failed product. I don't consider the warranty an actual sales feature. I trully hope to never have to use it.
 
does anyone know what the eta is if i place a purchase online tonight its listed as 'pre opder" at sfrc.
do i get called by CFO? ive never bought a gun online before lol
 
Epoxy7 said:
One last point. I don't buy any product for their warranty. I buy a product with quality and a low problem rate. The warranty is there to keep customers from being completely pissed at a failed product. I don't consider the warranty an actual sales feature. I trully hope to never have to use it.
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I agree with you 100% on that. The best warranty is one you never have to think about, let alone use.

A 100% lifetime transferable warranty can be a comfort to those who are thinking of buying a rifle from a company who has only been building them for a year and has had obvious teething pains in those past 12 months. I'm not saying that is the reason to buy, just saying it is some reassurance for a buyer.
 
Runningfool said:
I agree with you 100% on that. The best warranty is one you never have to think about, let alone use.

A 100% lifetime transferable warranty can be a comfort to those who are thinking of buying a rifle from a company who has only been building them for a year and has had obvious teething pains in those past 12 months. I'm not saying that is the reason to buy, just saying it is some reassurance for a buyer.
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Sure, it's "some" reassurance to a buyer, but that will vary. For me, an AR noob (I don't even own one yet), that isn't good enough. I looked at all the main brands out there under $2K and decided I didn't want one with a spotty record. I don't care if they will fix problems, maybe because part of it is I won't necessarily know what is a problem or not. For example, I may not know if one part is out of spec which may make other parts fail or perform poorly. Due to my general ignorance of AR-15s, I'd rather put my money towards a brand with a solid reputation. I went with a Stag 2TR.

If I were to sell the Stag in the future, people will know what they are buying. If I were to sell an NEA in the future, would they have the same confidence level? Not likely. Some will count on the warranty and others will stay away, at least until enough time has passed where they aren't sending out bad batches of whatever parts.

I really want to see NEA succeed. I really do. For me, they need to put in time of doing things right without repeating some of the previous problems.
 
ez8 said:
does anyone know what the eta is if i place a purchase online tonight its listed as 'pre opder" at sfrc.
do i get called by CFO? ive never bought a gun online before lol
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It depends on the barrel length. I'm pretty caught up on 7.5" and 10.5" guns. There are a couple 18" and about 30 14.5" on back order.

12.5" guns will be available again shortly.
 
Chemist said:
It depends on the barrel length. I'm pretty caught up on 7.5" and 10.5" guns. There are a couple 18" and about 30 14.5" on back order.

12.5" guns will be available again shortly.
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could you do a similar 14.5 NEA deal with the Vortex Sparc as you have with the strikefire?
so + $30 to upgrade to the Sparc??
 
I dont work for NEA or have any affiliation with them. I simply like my rifle and have had no problems with it and im just sharing my views.

So since other people stand up for they guns they have does that mean they all work for that company?
 
blaxsun said:
That's not entirely accurate... Apparently a few threads criticizing NEA popped up a few of the SA and NZ black rifle forums, but they were quickly deleted. I'm not inferring that the reception was overly negative, just that the NEA guns weren't universally received without incident, either.
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None that I've ever seen, and I frequent just about every substantial NZ gun forum that discusses black rifles. If you can actually back this up with any evidence of problems being identified and threads being deleted I'd be very interested to know what has been said because it would be entirely at odds with the previous behaviour of a number of forum admins.

The only things I recall anyone saying on the NZ forums was that the trigger pull was awful, and that the staking didn't look like the internet said it should.... :rolleyes: From memory, the NZ distributor shipped a staking tool around the country to all customers that wanted it to re-stake as required.
 
scaggly said:
None that I've ever seen, and I frequent just about every substantial NZ gun forum that discusses black rifles. If you can actually back this up with any evidence of problems being identified and threads being deleted I'd be very interested to know what has been said because it would be entirely at odds with the previous behaviour of a number of forum admins.

The only things I recall anyone saying on the NZ forums was that the trigger pull was awful, and that the staking didn't look like the internet said it should.... :rolleyes: From memory, the NZ distributor shipped a staking tool around the country to all customers that wanted it to re-stake as required.
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I believe it was primarily the SA forum, but I don't have the specifics (sorry). I do recall the gist of the negative comments NEA posted there about the Canadian reaction to the "shilling" incident, though.
 
blaxsun said:
You just verified comments over the trigger pull and staking, which reiterates my point that contrary to popular belief - Canadians weren't the only ones with initial concerns.
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True but busted your point about negative posts disappearing on NZ forums. Repeating hearsay as if it s fact undermines your arguments that actually are based on factual occurrences.
 
Maybe you should re-read what you wrote. You stated that " Apparently a few threads criticizing NEA popped up a few of the SA and NZ black rifle forums, but they were quickly deleted" I queried this because I personally don't believe it to have happened, but was willing to be convinced by actual evidence.

You then changed your story to be about SA forums that apparently delete NEA threads. Then you try to make out like you've been vindicated when I outline the only things I've ever seen in terms of vaguely negative comments towards NEA on NZ forums. I've also seen more positive threads on NEAs than negative ones too, but you wouldn't be interested in anything that doesn't support your narrative, would you?

You were either not checking your facts, or you were deliberately trying to mislead. If your beef with NEA is justified it doesn't need any additional falsehoods to support your view, does it?
 
Yeah, it looks like blaxsun is a little mixed up… I don’t believe anyone has shown that the same practices of shilling and thread deleting as we saw on CGN happened on any other forum… albeit the assertion that the NZ and SA guns had no problems and we were being too picky or making mountains out of ant hills, so to say, is not entirely true either… nevertheless the brands of ARs available in those countries appear to be of a lower quality than the ones in North America, at least last I checked… the assumption could be easily made that many of us expected and still expect a better product than the consumers in NZ or SA…

blaxsun said:
So which NZ NEA dealer are you?
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The Honey Badger dude from SA was just too good… I don’t think anyone will make that mistake again…

I am still waiting for the actual customer that sings such great praise of the NEA... let alone compares one to an LMT…
 
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