Rebarrelling noob. (flame away if you must)

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I know, a re-barrelled stevens 200 isn't precision, but you guys can help better than most, that I know.

Back story to help you guys find my fault:

I removed the old barrel, pulled the extractor off the bolt, secured the new barrel and tightened the receiver until I felt it “bump” against the go gage, loosened a half of a half of a fraction of an inch, then secured the barrel nut, making sure the receiver didn't move. Minimal to no resistance closing bolt on go gauge
Took it out to range, fired with string and used a Wilson case gauge to check the fired brass. Wouldn't fit; only about 2/3 of the brass would slide into it. Looks like bad things will happen. Uh-oh. I must have f***ed up somewhere (this is my first try)

Back to the drawing board for try #2

Followed same procedure as before, only did NOT loosen receiver by fraction of an inch, and instead snugged it up a 1/8 fraction. This resulted in resistance within the first quarter of the way through closing the bolt, finally ending quite tight on go gauge. Dummied rounds were VERY TIGHT to try and close the bolt w/ extractor, to the point that I wasn't comfortable trying it.
F*** it, I still have to be doing something wrong. (yup, must be kind of an idiot)

Try three:

Followed same thing as first time, no f*cking around with tightening or loosening receiver. “bump” gage locked down barrel nut, make sure receiver doesn’t move. Resistance last quarter of bolt closing on the same dummied rounds that fit Wilson case gauge.
Got it! Out to the range, secure gun, shoot with string. Brass will not slide into case gauge, stops again – not shoulder hitting, more like fired brass stopping ¾ again.

So:

1)Am I missing some crucial yet simple step that has me over thinking this?
2)Am I complete idiot? (flame away with good advice- I need to learn somehow)
3)Or is this just the function of a rebarrelled stevens?

I’m NOT throwing in the towel on this one.
Gun info:
Stevens 200
.223
Shilen heavy prefit 1:9

Thanks guys.
 
Confirm chamber headspace with BOTH go and NO GO gauge.

Shilen chambers are cut to SAAMI spec but unsure what type of wilson gauge you have.

Unsure what the wilson gauge is for or why you are using it?

As long as the fired case fits the chamber and the headspace of said chamber is within saami, its all good.

If unsure, seek professional help.

Please note that most "CARTRIDGE" gauges are for FL sized cases BEFORE firing. This tells you that the case will enter ANY chamber that is inspec. These gauges are typically undersized or at min spec.

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Confirm chamber headspace with BOTH go and NO GO gauge.

Shilen chambers are cut to SAAMI spec but unsure what type of wilson gauge you have.

Unsure what the wilson gauge is for or why you are using it?

As long as the fired case fits the chamber and the headspace of said chamber is within saami, its all good.

If unsure, seek professional help.

Please note that most "CARTRIDGE" gauges are for FL sized cases BEFORE firing. This tells you that the case will enter ANY chamber that is inspec. These gauges are typically undersized or at min spec.

Jerry
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Jerry,
Thanks, Just me being a worrier, but it appears I'm also an idiot. :)

I was using the cartridge gauge to look for signs of bad things AFTER firing. :rolleyes:

Let this thread forever be a monument to overthinking a problem.
 
And since when is a rebarrelled Stevens Not precision, I put a Shilen .223 1-7, Thanks Jerry, on a Stevens and the first five shot group with 90gr went into1/2".
 
I remember back in the day when parking lot solo racing was popular. All the 'fast' cars had names like Corvette, porsche, camaro, mustang...

There were usually chuckles when some young student showed up in a bread box Civic.

Those chuckles stopped with these Civics posted the best times.

In precision rifles, there is a long history of building on solid front locking bolt actions. By manf, they can have a variety of problems that need resolution for peak performance. That lead to the very lucrative custom action product.

what is actually needed to make a rifle shoot hasn't changed. HOW you get there has.

The Savage/Stevens and even the Axis, offer plenty of potential if the right parts are installed. With over a decade of info and many thousands of project rifles around the world, the methods to tweak this platform is well establised and the performance shown.

Until you must have performance 0's to 1's, this action will do all that any shooter will want or need. That is not to say you can't get this level of performance on occasion, I have BUT it is not the platform I would start with.

For the vast majority of precision competitive shooting including F class, these actions do the job very nicely. Big bonus - being hunting based receivers, they use tolerances in the cycling far more generous then true custom receivers. At a place like Raton where having an action sandblasted is the norm, the Savage will keep on running where many mega dollar actions may lock up and/or fail.

Jerry
 
shotgunjoe said:
And since when is a rebarrelled Stevens Not precision, I put a Shilen .223 1-7, Thanks Jerry, on a Stevens and the first five shot group with 90gr went into1/2".
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Lol a joke directed towards some of the threads that go on in the section..

I built this rifle pretty much entirely from parts Jerry supplied, he's an A+ member and a credit to have around especially with the help he provides.

I'm convinced this rifle will be a shooter as well, just have to get out and build up some reloads.
 
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