What muzzle devise are you using to quite a .223?

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Would be nice to shoot without needing ear protection. Maybe those who live near ranges would like the dramatic reduction in noise? :)

There is a grumpy old man that lives right next door to one of our local ranges who would probably support the sh1t out of legal suppression!
 
Best method is to do what all the secret agents use

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You can build an effective suppressor for about 30 dollars in 20 minutes if you want to. I definitely would not recommend it if you want to stay out of jail.

I can build an effective silencer in 2 minutes for about $5. It's all in knowing what works. The law is stupid an ineffectual because there are tons of alternatives that don't come with a hefty additional jail sentence.
 
Guys lets all agree, we all would like sounds suppressors to be legal. Really, we dont need them unless you hunt people or game.

This is the kind of blind ignorance I expect from the antis. There are millions of gun owners in a dozen countries around the world safely using sound suppressors for all kinds of shooting outside if hunting humans or game.

Please PLEASE pull your head out of your ass and think about what you are going to say BEFORE you post.
 
Could you please list your source(s) for the above mentioned statement? Where did you come up with the 3db reduction is considered a silencer idea? There's nothing mentioned by way of written law on that that I am aware of. Could you please enlighten us?

He is actually correct. RCMP has recently decided that 3 dB is the limit to determine a sound suppressor. This is in line with the ATF and it actually makes some sense. Without a decibel limit, almost any kind of directional muzzle device could be deemed a prohib device. At least this way we have a limit to work within.

One potential problem in Canada is that nobody has ever bothered to actually test any if the devices perperting to be muzzle brakes. Nobody knows how to do the testing properly and nobody has the correct metering equipment. This at the moment it is a bit of a Wild West situation right now. It is my understanding this is going to change in the future and some may get a nasty surprise in the event stuff currently being sold is classified as Prohibted device.
 


oh snap!!!! You three who think I was wrong can eat my shorts!!!!
Are you enlightened now?


You should change your username to little_insecure. I asked you nicely to provide sources for your information. You still haven't done so. I'll take Suputin's at his word. However, like anything else in life, if it isn't in writing it's not worth much.
 
Haha this thread is funny. Guys lets all agree, we all would like sounds suppressors to be legal. Really, we dont need them unless you hunt people or game. But it's something I feel and I'm sure many of you feel is something that does not need to be banned from our firearms. We're not all Wanting to be James Bond or from call of duty. They are just a interesting addition to our firearms.

Your joking right? Your attitude towards why they are needed is out right wrong and helps reinforce misconceptions. Sound should always be muted at source. This method prevents the most people being damaged most effectively. Individual hearing protection is the least efficient as a consequence the most unreliable. By muting the sound at source everyone gets the benefit and not just the people who have ear protection.
 
like anything else in life, if it isn't in writing it's not worth much.

I haven't seen this in writing and I don't think we will anytime soon as you know how keen burocrats are to give a written opinion on anything. The reason I know RCMP have decided on 3 dB is that we submitted a muzzle device that produced ca 11 dB but was not designed nor intended to reduce sound in a meaningful way. I wasn't too keen on selling something that could easily be considered to be a silencer (even if a sharty one) without getting an opinion from RCMP.


Originally Posted by little_airwolf


oh snap!!!! You three who think I was wrong can eat my shorts!!!!
Are you enlightened now?


Except you didn't know that was the real value ... you just pulled it out of your butt. So the celebrating is a bit undeserved.



Legalize Suppressors White Paper. Spread it where you think it will do the most good.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42597962/LegalizeSuppressors.pdf
 
I can build an effective silencer in 2 minutes for about $5. It's all in knowing what works. The law is stupid an ineffectual because there are tons of alternatives that don't come with a hefty additional jail sentence.

thats true but you are a professional can maker.
 
Suppressors are fairly common in Europe due to population density and noise pollution. Once again North America lags far behind due to our governments being run by fear mongering tards with overactive imaginations who need to grow the f**k up.
 
all we need to do is let the powers that be know that if legal they will make money off them like a tax per can.......
 
I hope you dont mean like an ATF tax stamp... that would be silly and open the doors for our government to start penalizing citezens for owning inanimate objects like ATF does to Americans. Sales tax yes, but tax stamp no. So long as they understand they get their cut of the taxes and they (suppressors) help with firearms safety in Canada thats all we need. I think they should not only be legal but promoted. Its like banning earplugs at work, it makes no sense. I remember when someone climbed the s**t rope to find out why they are prohibited and the RCMP finally answered with basically "theyre prohibited because theyre prohibited"

all we need to do is let the powers that be know that if legal they will make money off them like a tax per can.......
 
Nemesis Canada. No in not kidding. If sound was the biggest concern when producing a firearm at a weapons manufacturer. Then why didn't all firearms just be outright designed to have a suppressor? I agree 100% that firearms should have them. But all I was saying was that the actual modern day designed use for sound suppressors is for hunting or military use. I'm not saying that suppressors should only be used and made for the purpose of those things.
 
This is the kind of blind ignorance I expect from the antis. There are millions of gun owners in a dozen countries around the world safely using sound suppressors for all kinds of shooting outside if hunting humans or game.

Please PLEASE pull your head out of your ass and think about what you are going to say BEFORE you post.

Hey. Maybe you should read my full post you ignorant fool. Shoulda guessed this post would of come from the likes of you Suputin you tinfoil political crusader.

Firstly I said NEED. Do you NEED a supperssor to operate your firearm? No you don't.

Secondly I agree the law is dumb and I agree that we should have them. AND agree that people have and still do use them safely.

PLEASE pull your head out of space where im sure you come from, and READ the post I made and think a bit more about it BEFORE YOU post. See Siputin! I can make capital letters too :D

freaking troll
 
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