It's up to you to arm the Canadian Forces...which sidearm do you supply them with?
- Thread starter mr00jimbo
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Why not drop the pistol and fork out the money for a few more mags of rifle ammo for a bull
pup? If the boys got to hump something all day they might as well have something they might use.
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Bob
They're inexpensive when you've owned them for 67yrs and still have a ton of brand new ones sitting in warstock.
Send them in to Colt Canada for some upgrades. Install some Novak sights, an ambi safety and maybe some new grips and you're good to go for another few decades. Replace all the springs too, especially in the mags.
Nothing wrong with the Hi-Power, it's just as good now as it was then, ours just need a little update.
The 1911 fan boys are living in a dreamland. We are a NATO country, the 9mm isn't going anywhere. If we're stuck with 9mm you might as well go with Browning's other great pistol design, the Hi-Power.
Colin we are talking about current production Sigs, well maintained and virtually new.
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Bob
I was referring to Shredder's comment regarding 1911's being inexpensive.
The Inglis Hi-Powers are old, for the most part worn out and suffer from being made using American Standard measuements not metric making part replacement an expensive proposition. Too, they are heavy. By the time you add armour plate to the chest rigs. pack and the helmet etc I am surprised our troops can even move. Why add to their weight package more than you have too for something most will never use.
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Bob
I think the idea of one pistol for the entire CF isn't the best idea. Even within the airforce we have differences in requirements. I fly fighters, with cramped little cockpits. The last thing I want is something bulky or heavy. I also only carry to mags, and don't go running around with my pistol, jumping into ditches etc. So for me, a Glock might be just fine, whereas it might not suit infantry types, who will carry/use it in a totally different way.
That's why the RFP was totally unrealisitic, they were trying to cover the requirments of every single person who might carry a pistol in combat and the fact is, you won't find a pistol that suits for every purpose.
That's why the RFP was totally unrealisitic, they were trying to cover the requirments of every single person who might carry a pistol in combat and the fact is, you won't find a pistol that suits for every purpose.
JDForBrkFst
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I agree about the RFP. From a different perspective, every time I've carried a pistol it's always because I was carrying something else heavy. For near all applications it's a secondary weapon, it needs to be light. We keep getting more kit to carry dumped on us, the weight needs to get cut from some where, in my mind this in an excellent place to do so. Polymer for the win.
This topic, although entertaining is fruitless. We will no doubt get something that leaves us all wondering what the f**k they were thinking.
This topic, although entertaining is fruitless. We will no doubt get something that leaves us all wondering what the f**k they were thinking.
For the amount of times pistols are actually used in combat by the non SF army, we would be better off keeping the HP (but buy new replacements as needed). The current ones have lasted since 1944 firing hot ammo and we don't have to change the training or supply system. The amount of pistols issued in the Reg or PRes, and used in an operational setting, don't justify a large cash outlay for a change.
There are plenty of other weapon systems and kit that could use replacement or up grading before a secondary weapon system.
There are plenty of other weapon systems and kit that could use replacement or up grading before a secondary weapon system.
ipscgraz
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
SIG 226 or HK USP...only 2 guns that have ever passed the FBI torture tests. Even the glorious Glock 17/22/21 failed. I'd only trust my life to these two guns personally, which is why I own both.
Got a link to the test?
As much as I love a good 1911, that's pretty much out of the question. It lacks a long list of required modern features, and therefore it wouldn't even be considered. Same goes for the HP. That's a little like saying, let's build brand new F-86 Sabers to replace the F-18... It's obsolete, even if you made one brand new. That doesn't take anything away from it, in terms of taking pleasure in shooting/owning it as a private citizen, but it does matter to those of us who'd have to carry it.
