The Type 97 is back . . .

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TRaTSeRiF said:
By the way, am I the only wackoid here that actually likes the way these 97's look and even prefers them to Tavors from an appearance standpoint? :eek:
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not at all!! for me it is like the weird little girl with braces at the prom...you know she WILL be hot someday :)
but the hotties of the time will just look normal in the future....:p
 
tootall said:
I thought the Thorneycroft would have been first generation,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorneycroft_carbine

and the EM-2 would be 2nd gen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle

I suppose the AUG, the FAMAS, and the L85 could be considered 3rd gen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup
with all the rest not really showing enough radically new features to be worthy of a 4th gen title.
IMHO, of course... :)
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I didn't include the first two you mentioned because they never really passed the prototype stage. But really, you're just arguing semantics, and I don't care for such arguments. It's quite clear that the point I was making is that the design of the Type 95 is somewhat outdated when compared to other bullpups (such as the Tavor), and this does leave much to be desired. Ergonomics are poor (I mean really, the safety selector is at the back of the rifle) and mounting optics is difficult, two features greatly valued by the modern rifleman.
 
I have been browsing through QBZ 95 videos since this T97 topic came back up, seen many video clips that appear somewhat amateurish, e.g. new recruits fumbling around. However, I came across this youtube with guys that seem to train pretty hard, judging by their handling and muzzle control etc, look like they train for competition and mean it.
For those who care:

Warning :) (It is not in English)
[youtube]lJ3-5sDnDVc[/youtube]
 
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Looks like they run them pretty fast. One thing I noticed is that they don't really make use of the safety -- instead it looks like the opt to keep the chamber empty with a mag ready to go. While it appears to work for these drills that doesn't exactly seem practical in a real scenario where you may be moving then engaging and moving again.
 
Anyone else notice they are doing mag changes with the RIGHT hand, taking it off the trigger?? Those guys were fast in their mag changes!!
 
norlandgeese said:
I have been browsing through QBZ 95 videos since this T97 topic came back up, seen many video clips that appear somewhat amateurish, e.g. new recruits fumbling around. However, I came across this youtube with guys that seem to train pretty hard, judging by their handling and muzzle control etc, look like they train for competition and mean it.
For those who care:

Warning :) (It is not in English)
[youtube]lJ3-5sDnDVc[/youtube]
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Man those guys look fit and well drilled.
 
DaveMachine said:
Looks like they run them pretty fast. One thing I noticed is that they don't really make use of the safety -- instead it looks like the opt to keep the chamber empty with a mag ready to go. While it appears to work for these drills that doesn't exactly seem practical in a real scenario where you may be moving then engaging and moving again.
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From what I've seen of Chinese military firearms handling techniques, it seems to be heavily influenced from that of the Russians, who don't normally use the safety much unless the gun is going to be out of the shooter's immediate control, or is not expected to be fired any time soon.
 
I checked the FRT a few days ago and only saw the full auto and sniper models. What is the exact model name for these new Canada friendly models?
Shouldn't the announcement and pre-orders taken place AFTER they have FRT # and can be imported?
 
WanstallsOnline said:
Just to confirm for everybody. There is an open APPROVED FRT number for the Type 97NSR. The FRT is not officially released to the public based on CFC seeing the actual rifle but we expect an official announcement as early as the January. We are not concerned..

Gary
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Just thought I would post this here.... :D
 
This calls for some #### :D

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