416 Ruger Alaskan?

Gatehouse said:
Get a .416 Ruger and 200-500 pc of brass and don't worry about brass supply. If the 416 Ruger doesn't make it, and you need some more brass in 20 years you can always use 375 RUger brass.

If you don't overload your brass (and there isn't any need to do that anyway) then it will last you a long time.
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I am considering doing that for sure. It might come down to what I stumble across first, a nice used 416 Alaskan or a great deal on an action for a build.

On a new note though have you ever considered a 416 on the 350RM case, you mentioned in the OP. I built a 375 on 350 RM years back and got amazing ballistics from it in an 18" barrel. You did say you would like a short light rifle with an abbreviated action, I would try this wildcat as it will do almost anything you are asking and I bet you could get 2400 fps from a 350 gn bullet.
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I was thinking about that last night, wondering if any of the short mags might do what I want if wildcatted. Looking through the reloading books I wondered if they have the powder capacity to run a 350 @ 2500 without alot of effort. Looking at the 325 WSM is see it runs with anywhere from 65+ grains to low 70's for various brands of powders. Other issues I can think might be problems with that would be lack of shoulder going up to 416 on those cases and need for a belted case.
The Taylor seems like such a very simple prospect though, very simple to build ammo for.

I think a 375Magnum (any flavour) is a far better choice for a gun that will be shot for fun. Easier to shoot and less expensive components = more shooting & fun at the range. I see you live in NS, so you won't be using that rifle for there formuch of anything, maybe the odd moose hunt, but no big bears. Much of it's use will be at the range and a 375 would be much more funner to shoot.
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Fair statement, but I should have quantified my statement a bit better. As I mentioned, I already have a very nice 350RM that gives me very good performance. When I said for fun, I meant 95% of the time it's task would simply be at the range and make a big boom once in a while. I am an avid shooter and have many many guns I shoot just for fun at the range. This would not be something I would call a range gun, and I don't foresee logistics and cost of shooting it wouldn't really factor in.
The 350RM gives me ~1000 more ft pounds of energy over my 308Win's and I was wanting something that would give me ~1000 more ft pounds over the 350RM. I'm wanting a bigger step up from the 350RM than the 375's will give me. I don't feel my 350RM with a 250 grain partition @ ~2600 is alot different than a factory loaded 375H&H with a 270 @ ~2700. I mean, it's not as big of step up as I want.
I'm not in NS anymore, I haven't gotten to updating that :-(
I'm in Saskatchewan presently and may be posted anyplace within a year or 2. I know my 308's and 350RM will do anything required in Canada. Something bigger is "required" to round out the battery :) and would be carried should I find myself posted and hunting where bigger critters roam in this country. Besides, everyone needs a big bore in the collection right :) ?
I'm also contemplating looking into bison hunting while I'm posted to the Prairies and believe the 350 adequate for that but a nice little 416 would be better ;-) and who knows when I might hit the lotto and get a hunting trip to who knows where hehe.
By the way supercub, I've seen your 375 Taylor on here and the campfire and really like it.
 
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crazy_davey said:
So the Alaskan must have been a smashing success then, eh?
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It seems Ruger beats a different drum. The RSM was a low build rifle that they couldn't make enough of. Very good gun and they quit making it for more profitable guns. A $200 dollar gun sold for $400 or a $1500 dollar one sold for $2000 but less of them. Doesn't take long to sell 'American' rifles in a quantity to make up the difference. Now if they drop the Ruger brand cartidges then they have turned their back to the big bore guys. Too bad. Eveyrbody needs a 460Wby.

I see the Ruger #1 in the tropical has been cut to just the 375H&H too. Sad really as they had a run on the Nitro carts a while back and it sure stirred up some interest.
 
c-fbmi said:
Gatehouse.......you're trolling..............

I thought we got past all this in our relationship?
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Well, considering you went on and on about how 375 RUger ammo isn't nearly available in Africa as 375 H&H ammo, and since you may lose your ammo, it's one of the reasons to avoid the NEW KING, I find it pretty comical that you are suggesting a WILDCAT cartridge with no hope of ammo ever being available anywhere. Not just Africa but nowhere anywhere....
 
I'm sure they will have more chamberings for the #1 as time passes. They are always adding and deleting from that line, with lots of one-time-only or limited runs.

But, holy crap...that Guide Gun is one ugly rifle! Not only that, but how do they legally use that name? Remember the Savage Axis/Edge fiasco? I wouldn't be surprised to see it renamed the Misguided Rifle soon.:rolleyes:...probably at the same time when they start putting tacticool muzzle brakes on the #1's.

Gatehouse, your post above, like most of your posts, is totally valid and accurate. As always, you make a good point...but then you end it with that crazy sig line...:)
 
Mauser98 said:
Exactly.

But check out the Guide gun on the Ruger site. Seriously?? I Wonder if the brake is removable.

http://www.ruger.com/products/guideGun/models.html
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That's exactly what I was thinking. At last they lost the horrible Hogue stock, but now they stick it in a camo laminated, what was wrong with the plain grey one? Not crazy about the brake but one could easily get the barrel chopped and crowned. It's like all the latest guns are being designed but that little :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug: on OCC, just throwing ideas and colours onto the screen and slapping sh*t together.
 
Mauser98 said:
Exactly.

But check out the Guide gun on the Ruger site. Seriously?? I Wonder if the brake is removable.

http://www.ruger.com/products/guideGun/models.html
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Ruger seems to have fallen in love with muzzle brakes this year. **GAG***

That Guide Gun is an Alaskan with a laminate stock instead of the Hogue stock. I now when the laminated LH Alaskans came out lots of guys here were wishing they came in RH models as well, so maybe it was a common request to Ruger?If I was to buy one today, I'd still slap a Macmillan on it and I'd unscrew that FUGLY muzzle brake and pitch it in the trash.

The ironic thing is that the muzzle brake is probably an added selling feature for many hunters.
 
Gatehouse said:
Well, considering you went on and on about how 375 RUger ammo isn't nearly available in Africa as 375 H&H ammo, and since you may lose your ammo, it's one of the reasons to avoid the NEW KING, I find it pretty comical that you are suggesting a WILDCAT cartridge with no hope of ammo ever being available anywhere. Not just Africa but nowhere anywhere....
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Gatehouse......the OP never said he was going to Africa with it, in fact he said he just wanted a big bore for fun. Wildcat bigbores are fun, plus the satisfaction of making your own ammo is kinda cool too.
Also, please do not interpolate what I've said in other posts, about comparisons between the 375 H&H and that 3/8" Ruger offering. Those comments were exclusively applied to that comparison and no other calibers or cartridges. Ammo availability was just one MORE reason why the 375 H&H is the TRUE KING !!!
 
Check out Rugers new African, they put a brake on it too......JEEEZE. Other than the brake they have made some nice refinements, not a bad looking rifle and in 416 too........HHHMMMMMM.
 
c-fbmi said:
Gatehouse......the OP never said he was going to Africa with it, in fact he said he just wanted a big bore for fun. Wildcat bigbores are fun, plus the satisfaction of making your own ammo is kinda cool too.
Also, please do not interpolate what I've said in other posts, about comparisons between the 375 H&H and that 3/8" Ruger offering. Those comments were exclusively applied to that comparison and no other calibers or cartridges. Ammo availability was just one MORE reason why the 375 H&H is the TRUE KING !!!
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I'm not talking about the OP, I'm talking about your hypocrisy. Putting down the NEW KING due to less ammo availability in Africa, but you yourself take a cartridge that has zero availability.

But you did prove my point that I have made many times. The NEW KING bashers will always play up the "ammo availability" card as if it is such a huge issue, but at the same time turn around and get all excited about using a wildcat or some old obsolete cartridge that factory ammo doesn't even exist anywhere.
 
Gatehouse said:
I'm not talking about the OP, I'm talking about your hypocrisy. Putting down the NEW KING due to less ammo availability in Africa, but you yourself take a cartridge that has zero availability.

But you did prove my point that I have made many times. The NEW KING bashers will always play up the "ammo availability" card as if it is such a huge issue, but at the same time turn around and get all excited about using a wildcat or some old obsolete cartridge that factory ammo doesn't even exist anywhere.
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You're just not making any sense here at all, and your debilitating addiction to the 375 Ruger has no context in this thread. You go back and continue to play with your 375 now, this is a big boys thread about calibers over 40;)
 
c-fbmi said:
Check out Rugers new African, they put a brake on it too......JEEEZE. Other than the brake they have made some nice refinements, not a bad looking rifle and in 416 too........HHHMMMMMM.
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I had read somewhere that the original Ruger African did not come chambered in .416Ruger due to problems with the wooden stock splitting from recoil. Now they have brought it out in the wood stock...has anyone heard what they have done, if anything, to overcome the original difficulty?

It is a good-looking gun, after I did a poor-man's-photo-shop on the pic, i.e. I put my thumb over the brake!
 
c-fbmi said:
You're just not making any sense here at all, and your debilitating addiction to the 375 Ruger has no context in this thread. You go back and continue to play with your 375 now, this is a big boys thread about calibers over 40;)
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It just goes to show how your personal bias lead you to become a hypocrite. Good enough for me.....;)
 
AG said:
I'm not in NS anymore, I haven't gotten to updating that :-(
I'm in Saskatchewan presently and may be posted anyplace within a year or 2. I know my 308's and 350RM will do anything required in Canada. Something bigger is "required" to round out the battery :) and would be carried should I find myself posted and hunting where bigger critters roam in this country. Besides, everyone needs a big bore in the collection right :) ?
I'm also contemplating looking into bison hunting while I'm posted to the Prairies and believe the 350 adequate for that but a nice little 416 would be better ;-) and who knows when I might hit the lotto and get a hunting trip to who knows where hehe.
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Go for it! :D
 
Gatehouse said:
It just goes to show how your personal bias lead you to become a hypocrite. Good enough for me.....;)
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No doubt, rant and rave against one cartridge because supplies/ammo are less available than another, write it off as inferior, and then brag about hunting Africa with a wildcat...;)




To Mr. OP,

If you really want a Ruger Alaskan, I'd say buy one. It's about more than just the cartridge as far as I'm concerned and they are neat, powerful little rifles for the money. I know I'm not man enough for one chambered in .416, but, heh, fill your boots! :)
 
how would the new ruger guide gun do with the .300 win mag with a 20" barrel. how much velocity would you loose, or is the 300 oor 375 rcm readly advaible in canada
 
JR45-70 said:
how would the new ruger guide gun do with the .300 win mag with a 20" barrel. how much velocity would you loose, or is the 300 oor 375 rcm readly advaible in canada
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I don't know about the 300 RCM, but the 375Ruger components and ammunition are easy to find out west.
 
hummm really, I might be going out to northern b.c this year or next to hunt elk or moose. I would like to buy a big calibre rifle and I was thinking about the ruger alaskan model in 375. Then I saw the new Ruger Guide model here, so I think I might have to save my pennies this fine rifle. But another riflr I was thinking of was the model 70 alaskan in 375 H&H
 
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