Is this normal? S&W 629 4.2"

I am sorry to read about this. I have such mixed feelings about Smith and Wesson recently: their warranty coverage and customer service are still generally excellent in my experience,but they do give a lot of their customers reason to use it. Good luck!

Best regards,
Ryan
 
Ive been looking around at other pics of revolvers on this site. And that peening seems to be to some extent on them all. Just look at this pic.

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Ive checked my gun from top to bottom, the timing seems perfect, the cylinder peening as you call it, to me just comes with use. I have seen a few other pics on here now and the same thing is evident.
 
OK. I cleaned my 27 and checked it again. There is a slight drag line around the cylinder. But still no peening visible. When touched, I can barely feel some sharpness. Maybe another 400-500 rounds and it will be more pronounced. But what does that say about the OP's "new" gun?
 
Home3 said:
OK. I cleaned my 27 and checked it again. There is a slight drag line around the cylinder. But still no peening visible. When touched, I can barely feel some sharpness. Maybe another 400-500 rounds and it will be more pronounced. But what does that say about the OP's "new" gun?
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My point exactly. Who knows where smith got these, maybe they are old stock or something.
 
GunGuy34 said:
Ive checked my gun from top to bottom, the timing seems perfect, the cylinder peening as you call it, to me just comes with use. I have seen a few other pics on here now and the same thing is evident.
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The peening is caused because the cylinder is out of timing. I have a couple thousand rounds through my Ruger GP-100 with no peening. I jest sold a very old butr excellent K 38 to my son and there is no peening on the gun. The OP's gun has more than just a littlel peening anf the drag marks indicate the gun is, at very least a demo gun. There is no way the drag marks and peening on his gun occurred with factory test firing, either.

If Epps didn't offer me my money back or to replace the gun I would be all over S&W, the Distributer for S&W and the local Better Business Bureau. I wonder what the CFO's take would be if the gun had been regisgtered tp another owner prior to being sold again. Just saying. In the absence of hearing Epps side of the story, and they have to know about this thread, I would tend to boycott their store because this type of conduct thing is just not right. I do wish they would respond as some have bought from them with entirely satisfactory results.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
The peening is caused because the cylinder is out of timing. I have a couple thousand rounds through my Ruger GP-100 with no peening. I jest sold a very old butr excellent K 38 to my son and there is no peening on the gun. The OP's gun has more than just a littlel peening anf the drag marks indicate the gun is, at very least a demo gun. There is no way the drag marks and peening on his gun occurred with factory test firing, either.

If Epps didn't offer me my money back or to replace the gun I would be all over S&W, the Distributer for S&W and the local Better Business Bureau. I wonder what the CFO's take would be if the gun had been regisgtered tp another owner prior to being sold again. Just saying. In the absence of hearing Epps side of the story, and they have to know about this thread, I would tend to boycott their store because this type of conduct thing is just not right. I do wish they would respond as some have bought from them with entirely satisfactory results.

Take Care

Bob
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If murray charlton says its out of timing when he gets it then ill believe you. My gun has some mild peening and it appears to work fine, i dont see any timing issues.
 
In the majority of pics i looked at, the peening is much more noticable and evident on stainless revolvers, not so much on blued ones.
 
I've got similar, longer barrel though. No wobble on mine, no notches like yours. Did you buy it second-hand?
Try to tighten all the screws there. Some can get loose over time.
 
Brand spanking new.

I read on US forums about guys pissed-off starting to see timing issues and peening after 1000+rnds.

Out of the box new with max-peening is troubling to say the least. I'll try calling Murray today as CP is showing it as delivered.
 
Guys, this is a well known issue to Smith and Wesson, its what happens when they have machines making guns as fast as they can to get them out the door. Bits don't get sharpened, and cnc machines are run to full capacity and not always maintained perfectly. These are NOT pythons, they don't get tlc before they leave the factory. All the guns at the end of the run are running into troubles as the tolerances are mildly out of spec due to wear on the manufacturing equipment. Its way cheaper for Smith and Wesson to make it right when a guy complains than it is to fix the entire system. Its a COMMON issue these days.

Like the OP I have been through it. Its a timing issue. and Smith will make it right.
 
Canuck44 said:
.........The OP's gun has more than just a littlel peening anf the drag marks indicate the gun is, at very least a demo gun. There is no way the drag marks and peening on his gun occurred with factory test firing, either.

If Epps didn't offer me my money back or to replace the gun I would be all over S&W, the Distributer for S&W and the local Better Business Bureau. I wonder what the CFO's take would be if the gun had been regisgtered tp another owner prior to being sold again. Just saying. In the absence of hearing Epps side of the story, and they have to know about this thread, I would tend to boycott their store because this type of conduct thing is just not right. I do wish they would respond as some have bought from them with entirely satisfactory results.

Take Care

Bob
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Well said Bob. There is no way those are tool marks. Those are definitely "use" marks which makes me very mad. I too hope Elwood Epps comes with a proper response to this thread, as it is one of my Favorite stores.
 
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My first and only S&W was defective out of the box. 25 factory rounds and it was badly damaged. Its been over a year since i sent it to murray back in late 2011. Its still not back to me. Murray seems like a nice guy but smith and wesson sucks in more ways than one.
 
SIGP2101 said:
That S&W is not timed properly. Cylinder stop is dragging across the cylinder face all of the time. That is incorrect it should touch cylinder only at 1/3 the distance between two notches. I would love to see detailed pic of the cylinder stop protruding from the frame and firing pin hole.
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I had a look at my older S&W's (3) and they were all OK. I agree that the peening is the result of the cylinder stop (or lock) not engaging the notch on the cylinder correctly. It would appear to me that the stop is either off center, not installed correctly, badly manufactured or there is too much play in the cylinder or a combination of the four.

Sure would be nice to see a pic of one.
 
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G37 said:
Email'd Epps with pictures. I was told that it was from "test firing" at the factory and then was offered a measely $35. No refunds. No Exchanges.

My only option: Send the revolver to S&W under Warranty. It is they who will decide wether the revolver gets fixed/replaced or not.

My plan is to now send the revolver to S&W. I expect I am now going to be without the revolver for several months.
Depressing.


So there you have it my friends.

Moral of the story: Ask for pictures before you buy because there is no returning once you buy, only warranty-repair/replacement from the manufacturer.


Worst Luck Ever.
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After hearing this and getting one really grubby used gun (thay I paid too much for in the first place not knowing) I will never buy another gun from epps again.
 
Fall Guy said:
I had a look at my older S&W's (3) and they were all OK. I agree that the peening is the result of the cylinder stop (or lock) not engaging the notch on the cylinder correctly. It would appear to me that the stop is either off center, not installed correctly, badly manufactured or there is too much play in the cylinder or a combination of the four.

Sure would be nice to see a pic of one.
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Ill take one tonight when i get home, unless someone else beats me too it.
 
Fall Guy said:
I had a look at my older S&W's (3) and they were all OK. I agree that the peening is the result of the cylinder stop (or lock) not engaging the notch on the cylinder correctly. It would appear to me that the stop is either off center, not installed correctly, badly manufactured or there is too much play in the cylinder or a combination of the four.

Sure would be nice to see a pic of one.
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Mine had too much play in the cylinder, so when the shot was fired the cylinder and barrel were not perfectly aligned. when fired The torque of the bullet moving from the cylinder to bore of the barrel forced the cylinder to rotate slamming it against the cylinder stop and this is where all the peening came from. Every shot only made it worse.
 
dizzy said:
Mine had too much play in the cylinder, so when the shot was fired the cylinder and barrel were not perfectly aligned. when fired The torque of the bullet moving from the cylinder to bore of the barrel forced the cylinder to rotate slamming it against the cylinder stop and this is where all the peening came from. Every shot only made it worse.
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yabut neither the OP or I have shot ours yet. However the peening is still there. That from the factory i wonder, after they shot it.
 
Bile said:
Its been over a year since i sent it to murray back in late 2011. Its still not back to me.
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This scares me.
If I am waiting more than 6-months (I think that is reasonable) I will be extremely upset. I'd be calling S&W to see what the hold-up is.

Anyone think North Sylvia should be aware since it was they who made the deal with S&W on these guns?

hmmmm.
 
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