How hard can you push 30-06 in new rifles?

[SND]

Just wondering if there's anyone pushing the old 30-06 in new high end rifles. I see Lapua makes 30-06 brass. So I'm curious about how much this cartridge is really able to do VS what load data books are showing as I'm not trusting those #'s at all. Couldn't find much so far online as most only seem to be doing them in .308 or 300Win-mag to push harder, while the 30-06 seemed to get dropped long ago for matches eh?

So how fast could a solid rifle push the 185's and still get some decent brass life?

thanks

 

[Why not?]

2800 fps is not difficult with 180 gr. c&c hunting bullets, and good brass life.

Ted

 

[8 ball]

Open any new reloading manual to the 30-06 cartridge and the weight of bullet you want to shoot. Look at the top velocity loads. Very simple. ANYTHING HOTTER THAN THIS IS NOT SAFE!

 

[SND]

The velocities listed in the few manuals I looked into so far seem a fair bit slower than what most people actually report getting from the listed loads. Hence, if you put it into a good rig with a 30" barrel, I'm interested to see roughly were that gets it today.
Getting up to that safely obviously applies. Just doesn't seem like there's been any interest in this cartridge for a very long time, so much of the data is hunting related.
I might have to put it on the future projects list.

 

[Eddycat]

You might want to look at german salazar work and his journal: the rifleman's journal. The guy loves the 30-06 more than anything else and he has about 10 very specialized articles on shooting this caliber in highpower matches, reloading for competition, bullet choice, etc

http://riflemansjournal.########.ca/p/articles-index.html?m=1

 

[blueoval56]

You might want to look at german salazar work and his journal: the rifleman's journal. The guy loves the 30-06 more than anything else and he has about 10 very specialized articles on shooting this caliber in highpower matches, reloading for competition, bullet choice, etc

http://riflemansjournal.########.ca/p/articles-index.html?m=1

+1
These articles are a really good read. Lots of info on 308 vs 30-06, the history of the 30-06 and how/why it was phased out of match shooting ect. Really good stuff from a guy that has put in a lot of range time with that cartridge.

 

[SND]

Thank you very much for the link, that's a lot of great information in there.

 

[Why not?]

Open any new reloading manual to the 30-06 cartridge and the weight of bullet you want to shoot. Look at the top velocity loads. Very simple. ANYTHING HOTTER THAN THIS IS NOT SAFE!

How about from a powder manufacturer website? Six pressure-tested loads ranging from 2740 to 2840 fps.

180 GR. SIE SPBT Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 3.300" 57.3 2545 47,300 PSI 61.0 2673 54,100 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon Suprform .308" 3.220" 54.0 2628 46,200 PSI 59.7 2840 57,600 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H4831 .308" 3.300" 54.0 2447 34,700 CUP 60.0C 2710 44,300 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 3.300" 53.0 2585 47,000 PSI 57.0C 2742 55,200 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4831 .308" 3.300" 53.0 2563 47,300 PSI 56.8C 2749 57,100 PSI
]180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 3.300" 52.0 2543 37,800 CUP 57.5 2798 49,300 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H414 .308" 3.300" 50.0 2528 39,200 CUP 55.5 2743 48,700 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4350 .308" 3.300" 53.0 2586 48,300 PSI 56.5C 2752 57,200 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Winchester 760 .308" 3.300" 50.0 2528 39,200 CUP 55.5 2743 48,700 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 3.300" 52.7 2698 55,600 PSI 53.5 2732 58,100 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H380 .308" 3.300" 48.0 2490 39,900 CUP 53.0 2682 48,700 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon Varget .308" 3.300" 44.0 2533 41,900 CUP 47.0 2668 50,000 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4320 .308" 3.300" 45.0 2525 49,900 PSI 47.8 2661 58,000 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4064 .308" 3.300" 45.5 2550 48,900 PSI 48.7 2700 58,200 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 3.300" 44.0 2456 39,200 CUP 48.5 2634 48,100 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT IMR IMR 4895 .308" 3.300" 45.0 2555 49,500 PSI 48.0 2680 56,800 PSI
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H335 .308" 3.300" 42.0 2455 41,900 CUP 46.0 2621 49,200 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon H4895 .308" 3.300" 41.0 2427 38,100 CUP 46.0 2638 48,800 CUP
180 GR. SIE SPBT Hodgdon Benchmark .308" 3.300" 43.0 2550 45,600 CUP 46.0 2660 49,000 CUP

Ted

 

[manitou210]

Tests on 30.06 with 165 gr Accubonds

Rifle was a rem 700 Bdl 22" barrel all are max loads from Hogdons & VT sites 2 loads where over max and could have went a little more.one of the loads averaged over chron graph 2830fps and was accurate
Hope this might be of help to you
manitou