New compact Mossberg MPV
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youthshooter
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I would suggest you take a second to read what Phil wrote... he states is one of North Sylva's largest customers.
Then go for it, let Mossberg know that a brand new, one man show wants to by-pass distributors and buy direct from them, let me know how that works out.
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youthshooter
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Yes, but usually manufacturers want well established dealers before they sell direct.
Well, aren't we full of bravado with (229) posts to their credit.
I read Phil's comment and I understood him to mean he was one of North Sylva's biggest Mossberg dealers. I must have misread it. Oh dear, I'm going to lose sleep for sure. lol
My comment was in reference to having ordered items from the US before. In no way did I indicate that I wanted to import firearms for resale. I simply said the process isn't all that difficult should a person wish to do it themselves. Sure, it's somewhat intimidating at first but it's not that bad once you know what you're doing.
FYI, about (11) years ago I had a hobby business and I was bying factory direct from Hornady and Nosler at the time. I'm well aware of the import/export paperwork and procedures and did my own CCRA B3's and other customs related documents. I never wanted to pay a broker to do it when I could learn to do it myself.
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Is there a pre-order list to get on somewhere for these?
Take my money dammit!
Take my money dammit!
youthshooter
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No one said anything about buying direct; he was talking importing. If you can find an FFL dealer in the USA and the manufacturer is licensed for export (Mossberg definitely is) then you can import a firearm from the US to Canada. It isn't hard and you were arguing that it was.
youthshooter
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Like I said I was misunderstood. He was correct that personal importation is not entirely difficult.
Jack
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They are a major one, and none of the other distributers have the rifle either (at least to the best of my knowledge). Most people would take that as a sign that it's something that is hard to get at the moment. Obviously you have other ideas...
P&D was referring to being one of North Sylva's biggest customers (meaning that their voice in regards to things they want NS to stock, will carry a greater weight than most others). Apparently you fail at reading comprehension too...
So please, for your sake, stop talking now...
No... not really... He's just being a pr!ck and going after the wrong people. As NS stated, they have been on order for a while, they're still waiting to hear back from Mossberg, and remember, the Canadian market isn't on the top of most gun manufacturers priority list. They can't, as they said, snap their fingers and have the rifles magically appear here. Plus, if they could get them and don't, even after a clear and overwhelming expression of interest, what kind of business do you think they'd be? NS has been around for a long time, so they're not exactly new to the game.
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Aren't you full of bravado with only 2,896 posts to your credit? As if post count means anything.
Yes, you misread it. Work on that.
Sporting ammunition =/= firearms in "military" calibers with evil flash hiders. Also ITAR regs have been tightened, especially for items with the features I mentioned in the previous sentence. So you may have a rough idea of some of the export paperwork involved, but your knowledge is outdated and doesn't transfer over to the listed firearms directly.
Also, have you maybe considered that there are supply issues from Mossberg? I'm sure Mossberg is having enough trouble meeting domestic demand, let alone sending shipments north.
So there are numerous factors that you appear to not have even considered.
Seeing that there's a total lack of information comming from Mossberg or any of its distributors, you're about as much in the dark as anyone else is and making your own assumptions as you see fit. Not once have I speculated on the reasons why it wasn't available, I just asked why it wasn't. Your assumptions might be valid, or not. I guess we'll never know.
Yes, my knowledge on the exact nuances of import/export regs are no doubt dated since I last imported from the US for commercial purposes. However, there's one thing I'm fairly certain of and that is any amount of knowledge I have on the matter certainly trumps someone such as yourself who has never done so before.
Perhaps, you might not have noticed but those same ITAR regs you've quoted as being tightened are now loosening. Maybe you were not aware that .50BMG ammo, reloading components, and firearms are now flowing to Canada from the US. You might have missed the fact that AR's are now being imported to Canada with flash suppressors and 5.56mm chambered barrels.
By the way, when's your long awaited 180B ever going to come to pass?
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ITAR regs have actually loosened alot the last 6 months.......hell, they're even approving export permits on .50BMG items right now.
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That is true, but they are still a lot tighter than they were pre 911 and on items in mil calibers w/flash hiders. Export is possible, but more difficult than sporting ammunition.
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