10/22 magazine wobble, I've got a fix for it. - VER:2.0 (POST#1)

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I bought another trigger group (Brownells) and tried something a little different... same great results, looks a bit cleaner; better pics if anyone wants to attempt.
EnjoY~!

Here is where I will drill, first hole is 8mm from bottom (along flash/mold line) and the next hole is 4mm above it.
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There it is...
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I did it!

If you, like me, have a newer 10/22 with plastic trigger housing and can only use OEM mags reliably, I've come up with a solution.

* * *Do not attempt unless you are somewhat competent with basic hand-tools. For reference, the plastic trigger housing can be ordered from Brownells for $20 USD if you prefer to work with a spare.* * *


The problem: Too much gap between the mag and the trigger housing and weak OEM magazine latch plunger spring. While shooting, should the mag get bumped or move rearward under its own weight (within the mag well) the next round will Fail-To-Feed.
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The solution had to:
-Provide tightest clearance possible from magazines to magazine (all manufacturers.)
-Still allow easy insertion and easy removal of magazine.
-Not wear or damage magazines.
-Permanent, simple, robust and require no servicing (basically be worry free and reliable).









Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the 'Zip Tie' mod (UV Black Minuature ties 4"/102mm):

Again, the problem space with the fix as viewed from the side:
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Two holes drilled to accept the small zip-ties.
I tried to get fancy and make little recesses for the zip tie so that they are perfectly vertical, but not required, I wouldn't do that again... just drill and go.
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Installed.
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It's not pretty, but it works like a hot damn.

I am very pleased with the fix. Magazine lockup is now incredibly tight; I can actually hold the rifle by the mag, pull on it while shooting and the next round will still chamber. I would never have thought possible from a 10/22.
Passing it along if anyone else was experiencing the same thing with theirs.
 
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Thanks for the tip!! I was getting frustrated just yesterday with FTF's with my new Butler Creek mags.

The problem is that the plunger spring is extremely weak it can't keep the mags pushed all the way forward, the shape and weight of the Butler Creek mags is a recipe for FTF-city as the mags will cant rearward under their own weight. Terrible.

The zip ties both assist the plunger spring by being sprung themselves as well as closing the gap up. The extra 2 contact points also go a long way for helping to eliminate the wobble.



Yeah, I'm proud of it. ;)
 
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The most elegant fix of course would be a much stronger/stiffer plunger spring.

I'll send an email to WOLFF and see what they think as I am sure there are a lot of 10/22 owners with similar problems since Ruger went to the plastic trigger housing.
 
I put about 3 pieces of clear hockey tape on each of my mags to make them fit tighter and that seems to work well. I think I may try your zip tie method though.
 
Heck of an idea!! The ties can be specially ordered from - ah, just kidding!

Thanks for sharing this gem. I use a stainless, stock 10/22 for my main gopher defense rifle. I use a mix of Butler Creek steel lip, plastic lip and a couple of ancient Eagle mags. I don't seem to have much trouble with any of them being particularly loose, and have only the odd failure to feed.
 
Yep. Some are worse than others... My old aluminum trigger housing had no problems (tighter tolerances?)

With my plastic fantastic I can pull a BC out without using the release. Basically, on recoil it'd cant the mag and cause a failure to feed.

The 10rnds work because they are light enough that the plunger keeps it in place; obviously they sit flush so the shooter never knocks it.

It's a slick fix if I do say so myself.
 
Thanks. Typically I don't do things like this, but on a $20 part... eh.

It works. The fit is now better than the best factory specimen and it cost me nothing :D.
 
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i had the same issue till i just bought my wife a new 10/22 and noticed her mags fit nice and tight ! i found that my reciever was drilled slightly further back than hers and found that if i took off a little from the back of the mag release where it contacts the plunger the plunger came out enough to hold the mag in proper position ! next will be a spacer behing the spring to give a proper pressure ! But it shoots like a dream now and no more fte
 
i had the same issue till i just bought my wife a new 10/22 and noticed her mags fit nice and tight ! i found that my reciever was drilled slightly further back than hers and found that if i took off a little from the back of the mag release where it contacts the plunger the plunger came out enough to hold the mag in proper position ! next will be a spacer behing the spring to give a proper pressure ! But it shoots like a dream now and no more fte

Interesting observation. I didn't have a second receiver to compare to. Good to know.

Shaving the mag release: Actually, this was my first mod. I did it, and it helped with the OEM mag even more, but not enough for aftermarket-extended magazines (at least in my case).
 
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