Anyone else think economy rifles degrade brand?

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Well, what is coming across is that you should be the one hunting because you have the money to buy new and fancy rigs and that you and your income bracket sit in a different group than people that use economy equipment.

Someone had to say it.

It may not be what you are trying to convey but every time you type it sure comes across as such.

I'll make sure that the people making less than you are made aware of the fact that they shouldn't be hunting or enjoying a hobby if they have to purchase low end rifles.

I am glad that your truck is using $150.00 in a week , good for you , I am so proud that you can spend that kind of money you must be doing so well for yourself!!! Make ya feel better? ;)

NOW , don't get poop behind your ears as you extract your head!!Oh wait, shouldn't be too hard being so narrow minded. :)

Have you stopped to think maybe some of these narrow minded high income low life's are maybe trying to influence some inexperienced hunter/shooter into possibly looking at more than a cheap price tag. I wish someone would have told me to not buy that POS hatsan shotgun that jams every shot.......no wait they did but I was too narrow minded to listen as my cheap shotgun killed everything dead and was really accurate as that is all that matters apparently
 
Yes budget for a small percentage from what I see. Hunting and shooting today is an expensive sport no matter how one looks at it.
So those involved for the most part earn a fair living it is where they decide to spend their money is the real reason why some make the decisions they do. I look just at the small circle within my group. I am the only one forced to retire 15 years early due to health and on a fixed income of 40% what the rest make but I am also the one still buying the best quality I can afford and always picked on during hunting trips about what new gun did I take this time and it must be nice.
No I see a gun I want and then work out a plan how I am going to get the cash. Is there something I can sell etc. Many times I have to save a year but I do.
I don't drive 60,000 trucks, go south two times a year or pay golf dues at three clubs like my buds however. If one would just stop smoking for 12 months he could buy what ever nice rifle he wants .
So to me it is all about choices and the priorities we have as individuals and nothing wrong with that but please stop the crying about what others like to shoot in high end guns most are not snobs just gun owners that worked hard to get what they have and enjoy shooting fine guns. With me also it is about the return on the investment someday.
Agree 100% with you! I explained it in one of my previous posts but just a short version. Having an expensive or cheap firearm has to do with alot of things....... lifestyle, passion for firearms, passion for hunting etc. I had made my choice when I was just a kid, and that choice was a fishing rod, rifle, ball glove and lacrosse stick.
 
You may want to change up your bait or try a slightly different presentation. My suggestion would be to post your 5 pictures of Coopers and "big whitetail", that is sure to make some feel inadequate, it's a little more subtle but it's certain to make some feel inadequate and is likely to solicit the reaction you're trying for...:jerkit:
It's not "big whitetail" it's "big whitetails"...............animals that I worked hard for just like the firearms I worked hard for. Does that make you any "malcontent". Is there anything wrong to work hard for prize positions and passions?
 
It's not "big whitetail" it's "big whitetails"...............animals that I worked hard for just like the firearms I worked hard for. Does that make you any "malcontent". Is there anything wrong to work hard for prize positions and passions?

You are kidding right? Please tell me all your posts in this thread were in jest.
 
Well, what is coming across is that you should be the one hunting because you have the money to buy new and fancy rigs and that you and your income bracket sit in a different group than people that use economy equipment.

Someone had to say it.

It may not be what you are trying to convey but every time you type it sure comes across as such.

I'll make sure that the people making less than you are made aware of the fact that they shouldn't be hunting or enjoying a hobby if they have to purchase low end rifles.

I am glad that your truck is using $150.00 in a week , good for you , I am so proud that you can spend that kind of money you must be doing so well for yourself!!! Make ya feel better? ;)

NOW , don't get poop behind your ears as you extract your head!!Oh wait, shouldn't be too hard being so narrow minded. :)
I think that you need a big hug. Looks like your not having a nice day.
 
I think its a fine analogy. If you baby a quality car it will last just as long as if you baby a quality gun. Treat either like crap and they won't last long. The analogy ends when it comes to your grand kids wanting it. I would have done anything for my grandfathers GTO, but I have no interest in his guns. I might take one for sentiment, but I have pictures for that so probably not. In reality they will be sold to the highest bidder in an estate sale.

As for the quality vs budget gun debate, different people see value in different things. You will never catch me driving anything less then a Lexus/Acura/Infiniti and even then its borderline depending on model. Also I believe anything less then a "mid luxury" car is crap not worth buying. But honestly, I don't see the value in 'high end' guns over my 290 dollar axis. Different things for different people.

I currently have my grandfathers pre64 mod 70 win in .270 ... wouldnt trade it for the world. Does it go hunting every trip ? no ... but his old Fords are all cheap chinese toy's now ... Or Stevens 200's lol
 
I am not siding with any party in saying this (any value in this thread was over pages ago)... But you guys can't let Track's arrogance and demeaning nature, get under your skin... Just let him deposit his nuggets of "vast and irrefutable wisdom" and depart... Back to his house built of whitetail antlers... No windows, so throwing stones is permissible.
 
The original post spoke of "economy rifles cheapening
brands" first. Of course they do. If something is easy to get
for everyone is isn't very valuable.

Then the OP spoke in a "derogatory manner" about young
hunters with said cheap rifles. So am I to feel mocked for
shooting a Savage that has printed me a 4 round 0.68MOA group
at 200M and supporting my family in a responsible way
rather than spending $1000+ and optics and ignoring
my responsibilities? Many of the follow on posts denigrate 40
something's like myself who are in similar positions.
 
I am not siding with any party in saying this (any value in this thread was over pages ago)... But you guys can't let Track's arrogance and demeaning nature, get under your skin... Just let him deposit his nuggets of "vast and irrefutable wisdom" and depart... Back to his house built of whitetail antlers... No windows, so throwing stones is permissible.
Feeling inferior of me again hoytcanon.................usually it comes form the jealous type. Funny how one's success breeds envy, resentment and name calling from others like yourself. Thats two innuendo's from you lately.............watchout you might get an infraction for name calling.
 
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I am not siding with any party in saying this (any value in this thread was over pages ago)... But you guys can't let Track's arrogance and demeaning nature, get under your skin... Just let him deposit his nuggets of "vast and irrefutable wisdom" and depart... Back to his house built of whitetail antlers... No windows, so throwing stones is permissible.

A real hunter has a house built of moose antlers...and has beds covered with polar bear skins. All taken with a Cooper or Kimber .Everybody knows that ;)
 
Feeling inferior of me again hoytcanon.................usually it comes form the jealous type. Funny how one's success breeds envy, resentment and name calling from other like yourself. Thats two innuendo's from you lately.............watchout you might get an infraction for name calling.

track, comments like this you should feel very proud of giving. Such a humble act...f:P:f:P:
 
track, comments like this you should feel very proud of giving. Such a humble act...f:P:f:P:
Jealousy rearing it's ugly head again. People just don't like other people being successful or having nice possessions. You el al seem to have a hang-up over good people who are successful..............very sad.
 
The original post spoke of "economy rifles cheapening
brands" first. Of course they do. If something is easy to get
for everyone is isn't very valuable.

Then the OP spoke in a "derogatory manner" about young
hunters with said cheap rifles. So am I to feel mocked for
shooting a Savage that has printed me a 4 round 0.68MOA group
at 200M and supporting my family in a responsible way
rather than spending $1000+ and optics and ignoring
my responsibilities? Many of the follow on posts denigrate 40
something's like myself who are in similar positions.

Yes. And along with supporting my family know that with my $500 Stainless Axis, I will be able to afford to go down to Nfld this Fall and hunt moose with my 74 year old father, probably for the last time in his life.

Love nice guns, appreciate every one of them I've ever held, but if we're fortunate enough to fill the tag, the effing gun in my hands wont exactly be the reason I'm taking the pic. My dad will be long gone, but I'll have been able to afford to do it.

Will I own more guns? Yes. Will I buy economy guns? Maybe, but I'll probably also save up for some nicer ones too. But the "budget" rifle I bought this year will probably be the go-to for meat in the freezer.
 
Cheap...Expensive, heirloom...or throwaway. What does it matter in the end? If I wanna buy a cheap Remy 783 or Savage Axis or Ruger American or a whole other plethora of cheaper rifles...who cares? Right? Or better, why on earth should anyone else but myself care? The Browning symbol is not sacred by any means, so why treat it as such (referring to original OP post). I am having a tough time understanding the reference to the impulse buyer. They wanna buy, let them. Who cares!

Does it degrade the "Name Brand" - again, what kind of nonsense is that? The price point is set by the marketplace. If a cheap rifle prints clover leafs and is rough in the action - don't buy it. If it shoots better than a more expensive rifle, don't be envious, jealous or have any emotion about it at all. Really, it's not worth the effort or stress. Just enjoy the sport with whatever firearm you choose.
 
All the success and money in the world obviously doesn't make one a better person.

Riches are not always monetary, and there are a few here who's bank accounts don't make up for their shortcomings in other areas.

Absolutely ignorant......
 
All the success and money in the world obviously doesn't make one a better person.

Riches are not always monetary, and there are a few here who's bank accounts don't make up for their shortcomings in other areas.

Absolutely ignorant......

There are people EVERYWHERE with that problem, actually it's usually those that have less that are the first to be respectful and giving. I have NO time for self-righteous snobs that feel they are somehow superior to others with less money or possesions not as expensive.
 
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