Just because we mention it's heavy doesn't mean we're complaining. It does need to be mentioned though for those guys who are trying to go as light as possible...this wouldn't be the stock for them...I, for one, like the heft of it. I'd prefer it over built than under...no complaints from this guy.
NEA Compact Carbine Stock install - Range report up.
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Just because we mention it's heavy doesn't mean we're complaining. It does need to be mentioned though for those guys who are trying to go as light as possible...this wouldn't be the stock for them...I, for one, like the heft of it. I'd prefer it over built than under...no complaints from this guy.
Heavy? I'm carrying an extra 20 lbs around my midriff and fat head(that's my wife's input... LOL) 
I gotta hit the gym and work on that before I try to shed some weight off my quad rail'ed 14.5" carbine.
Cheers,
Barney
I gotta hit the gym and work on that before I try to shed some weight off my quad rail'ed 14.5" carbine.
Cheers,
Barney
I look at designs in a triangle
In this triangle - for the strength of the item your triangle points have size, weight and cost.
You could shrink the weight in this size - but to do so would mean using exotic materials and drive cost.
You could have it lite, and keep the cost low, but would live with a bulkier system.
Anyone know if NEA has a 'hook a poorly paid industry guy up' program?
In this triangle - for the strength of the item your triangle points have size, weight and cost.
You could shrink the weight in this size - but to do so would mean using exotic materials and drive cost.
You could have it lite, and keep the cost low, but would live with a bulkier system.
Anyone know if NEA has a 'hook a poorly paid industry guy up' program?
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I don't know about NEA but I definitely have a 'trade an NEA CompactCarbineStock for some cool KAC stuff' program!
That's a good way to look at it. I think what has me being a weinie about weight, is the comparison between my retro pencil barreled full length Ar-15, and my "modern" 14.4" railed thing. The more I add, the more it weighs, the slower it points where I want it, the less likely it is to do it's job : putting holes in approaching paper zombie targets.
Weights of MP5's (6.8lbs is ~6lb 12 oz) for reference.
2.5 kg (5.5 lb) (MP5A2)[1]
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5A3)
2.9 kg (6.4 lb) (MP5A4)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5A5)
2.7 kg (6.0 lb) fixed stock /
2.85 kg (6.3 lb) retractable stock (MP5/10)
2.7 kg (6.0 lb) fixed stock /
2.85 kg (6.3 lb) retractable stock (MP5/40)
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD1)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5SD2)
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD3)[2]
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD4)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5SD5)
3.4 kg (7.5 lb) (MP5SD6)
2.0 kg (4.4 lb) (MP5K, MP5KA1, MP5KA4, MP5KA5)
2.5 kg (5.5 lb) (MP5K-PDW)
2.5 kg (5.5 lb) (MP5A2)[1]
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5A3)
2.9 kg (6.4 lb) (MP5A4)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5A5)
2.7 kg (6.0 lb) fixed stock /
2.85 kg (6.3 lb) retractable stock (MP5/10)
2.7 kg (6.0 lb) fixed stock /
2.85 kg (6.3 lb) retractable stock (MP5/40)
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD1)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5SD2)
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD3)[2]
2.8 kg (6.2 lb) (MP5SD4)
3.1 kg (6.8 lb) (MP5SD5)
3.4 kg (7.5 lb) (MP5SD6)
2.0 kg (4.4 lb) (MP5K, MP5KA1, MP5KA4, MP5KA5)
2.5 kg (5.5 lb) (MP5K-PDW)
A 14" carbine is a loooong way from a 7" PDW with a puny stock. I'm sure it will point quicker than anything in your armory.
The thing to keep in mind when comparing to an MP5 is that a 556 PDW brings. Whole lot more close range hitting power. Covert the thing to 300 BLK and it is a close range beast in a tiny package.
Kev, I knew I could count on you to bring some sanity to the conversation. However I highly doubt you are gonna get any sympathy here ..... Mr industry professional.
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I dont have a scale here that measures in anything other than grains but I just put 7 one ounce slugs in my hand (the whole shell) and it doesn't seem like much weight. Its hard to take weight off of aluminum parts, you have to cut so much off to gain anything significant. If aluminum gets too thin its more prone to fatigue fractures from flexing. The more I look at the part, i don't see a whole lot of places where SIGNIFICANT weight could come off. maybe a few holes in the butt plate but you aren't going to gain much at all IMO.
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And this is even less than that 7.4 ounces is 209.7 grams. Or in non engineering terms SFA. I would bet that replacing the handguard with a lighter simpler one would get you all of that back.
I found this little chart on that other site...
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/545368_.html
So, assuming the rifle had an M4 Stock on it before, as the NEA’s come with one, it appears to be the lightest stock. It would appear the NEA CCS is getting pretty close to a SOPMOD or ACS. Definitely not getting up to an UBR or PRS.
My 14.5” AR weighs in at 6lbs 11.6oz with a CTR and my 10.5” weighs in at 8lbs 1.2oz with a SOPMOD. Considering this, the weight doesn’t seem like much of an issue… at least not to me…
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/545368_.html
So, assuming the rifle had an M4 Stock on it before, as the NEA’s come with one, it appears to be the lightest stock. It would appear the NEA CCS is getting pretty close to a SOPMOD or ACS. Definitely not getting up to an UBR or PRS.
My 14.5” AR weighs in at 6lbs 11.6oz with a CTR and my 10.5” weighs in at 8lbs 1.2oz with a SOPMOD. Considering this, the weight doesn’t seem like much of an issue… at least not to me…
What do you mean by that? I have a Vz-58 that's a 7.5", a skorpion, a brs-99... I have lots of pdw toys... you don't know me... sniff...sniff...
What sort of sandwich? A wee PB & J thing, or deli meat with all the fixins, dijon mustard on a dark russian rye? You can't just throw around these terms of measurement without defining them clearly.
I think I'll pass on that offer
oh come on, its the internet, im sure it is really just 5"
