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  • 338-06

    Votes: 43 21.6%

  • 35 whelen

    Votes: 69 34.7%

  • 9.3x62

    Votes: 87 43.7%
  • Total voters
    199
DANCESWITHEMPTIES said:
then I guess that 9.3x ? thingy that has probably killed a lot of moose in Europe!!!
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That 9.3x ? thingy has killed a disproportionate number of moose in the Yukon in the hands of Why Not? (Ted) and a couple of others. Keep in mind we harbor the largest moose on the planet and we can only shoot bulls, for the last 20 or so years. This is very different animal than Canadian, or Shiras cows and calves or the European variety. I have seen and taken bulls that may well have been approaching the 1 ton mark (live weight) and that would stand over 7 feet to the hump. I've also seen from the air, bulls that were packing what would appear to have been 7 feet of antler. These animals are HUGE and believe me the fun is over after the loud bang.
I kinda wonder when CGNrs on here say 6.5s and 7-08s are perfectly fine moose rifles, but then I remember 99% of Canadians aren't shooting these same monsters that we know as moose in the Yukon. And most of the rest of Canada has a majority of cow and calf tags.
 
c-fbmi said:
That 9.3x ? thingy has killed a disproportionate number of moose in the Yukon in the hands of Why Not? (Ted) and a couple of others. Keep in mind we harbor the largest moose on the planet and we can only shoot bulls, for the last 20 or so years. This is very different animal than Canadian, or Shiras cows and calves or the European variety. I have seen and taken bulls that may well have been approaching the 1 ton mark (live weight) and that would stand over 7 feet to the hump. I've also seen from the air, bulls that were packing what would appear to have been 7 feet of antler. These animals are HUGE and believe me the fun is over after the loud bang.
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All very true, but the possibility of an encounter with a grizzly would be even a bigger reason to shoot a med bore with stout/heavy bullet. Yes/No/Maybe?
 
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Originally Posted by Ardent
.375 H&H, it's what each of those would like to be when they grow up. :) I'll show myself out...


very funny.
 
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I would go 9.3x62 simply because of its' world wide reputation on large game, and
the availability of decent rifles out there in this chambering for it. A Browning auto
or levergun in this would sure be nice.
 
Actually SuperCub, our grizzlies are small compared to north coast BC grizzlies and a lot of Alta grizzlies, but it certainly factors in when going hunting in the Yukon. We have one of the largest populations of grizzlies per square mile than anywhere else, but they are not , for the most part, big or super aggressive. I have gone sheep hunting with a buddy where the largest rifle we had in camp was a 25-06. I still didn't feel intimidated by our bears.
Our moose on the other hand are something to be reckoned with, especially during the rut, far more dangerous than the bears, and 5 times bigger.
 
I haven't went through the whole thread...But I'm gonna say 30-06, because they're alot more gun then most people think they are. Also the original magnum, before magnums were swanky!
 
c-fbmi said:
We have one of the largest populations of grizzlies per square mile than anywhere else, but they are not , for the most part, big or super aggressive. I have gone sheep hunting with a buddy where the largest rifle we had in camp was a 25-06. I still didn't feel intimidated by our bears.
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You da man! I'm intimidated by a porqupine with a scowl...
 
c-fbmi said:
Actually SuperCub, our grizzlies are small compared to north coast BC grizzlies and a lot of Alta grizzlies, but it certainly factors in when going hunting in the Yukon. We have one of the largest populations of grizzlies per square mile than anywhere else, but they are not , for the most part, big or super aggressive. I have gone sheep hunting with a buddy where the largest rifle we had in camp was a 25-06. I still didn't feel intimidated by our bears.
Our moose on the other hand are something to be reckoned with, especially during the rut, far more dangerous than the bears, and 5 times bigger.
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I've seen the moose there and they certainly ARE big. I have no doubt the utility of a med bore there for such critters, but a bigger bore would be of some comfort with the possibility of a bear while gutting a moose.
 
I voted .35 Whelan

Muzzle energy and Taylor knock-down were in the same range for all three, with the 9.3 being slightly higher and .338 slightly lower. I set up a spreadsheet, just playing around learning the math.

.35 Whelan is imperial, not communist measures and seems more versatile in terms of commercial loads available and bullets available for reloading.

Seems to be a matter of personal preference, what rifle you can get at what price, the availability of reloading components, and overall cost of shooting it.

NameWeightVelocityDiameterEnergyTaylor
9.3x6225025590.37363634
.35 Whelan25025230.358353532
.338-0625025310.338355731
 
crjc said:
.35 Whelan is imperial, not communist measures and seems more versatile in terms of commercial loads available and bullets available for reloading.
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The Germans weren't quite communists when Otto Bock developed the 9.3x62. Would you like it better if we called it the .366 Wagner?

The true 9.3 guys will appreciate the naming convention.
 
the whelen is a fine cartridge as well but came along after the X62 was well established , there are more commercial loads for the x62 around if you dont reload than there are for the whelen as well.
For me the real benefit with any of these medium rounds is the ability to have 5 rounds of serious oomph ( 286 grain partition @ 2480 fps in my FN mauser and another rifle set up with a 286 Privi @ 2350 or 250 accubond @ 2700 ) in a regular weight crf sporting rifle with a regular length bolt throw.
Ive owned a 375 H&H and a couple of whelens as well , each to their own I dont think you'd go wrong with any of them.
 
c-fbmi said:
I think 360 Ted has a better "ring" to, what do ya think?
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I like that! I recently got a .257Bob, and have always been a fan of the .340Roy...the .360Ted seems like a natural extension of that trend.

I may have to get one of Gatehouse's ridiculous new .375's...I think I'll nickname it the .375LMC (Larry, Moe and Curly)!
 
c-fbmi said:
That 9.3x ? thingy has killed a disproportionate number of moose in the Yukon in the hands of Why Not? (Ted) and a couple of others. Keep in mind we harbor the largest moose on the planet and we can only shoot bulls, for the last 20 or so years. This is very different animal than Canadian, or Shiras cows and calves or the European variety. I have seen and taken bulls that may well have been approaching the 1 ton mark (live weight) and that would stand over 7 feet to the hump. I've also seen from the air, bulls that were packing what would appear to have been 7 feet of antler. These animals are HUGE and believe me the fun is over after the loud bang.
I kinda wonder when CGNrs on here say 6.5s and 7-08s are perfectly fine moose rifles, but then I remember 99% of Canadians aren't shooting these same monsters that we know as moose in the Yukon. And most of the rest of Canada has a majority of cow and calf tags.
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Should have put a sarcasm thingy on the end. I do realize it a fine cartridge...
Been to Alaska a few times & have seen the moose there. Big is an understatement. Although I never had the opportunity to hunt one up their, I will hazard a guess & say, a properly placed shot with any of the three, will cleanly kill an Alaskan moose. All being well over 200 grain properly constructed bullets, that is.
IMO, You 100% correct on your assessment of why people generalize hunting cartridges. I think a lot of people forget about bullet construction in favor of diameter & velocity as well.
 
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