A little reminder about purchasing "non-factory" loaded ammo at a gun show!
- Thread starter dthunter
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My post went so far over your head, it's not even be recognizable.
Let me try and break it down for you:
- adult Canadians need to start being accountable for themselves, and their actions. Shooters are no different - be it some guy selling a few boxes of re-loads (under the auspice of components or not) and same for the person buying those reloads - buyer beware. STOP wishing for government regulations.
- I defy a lot of shooters from recognizing genuine from-the-factory loaded ammo and military surplus to some hand-loaded ammo.
If you push gun shows and dealers to stomping out sales of hand-loads in the hopes you are regulating for 'safety' you will kill the sale of vintage, military surplus, and potentially nos, and newly manufactured ammunition. This could have further, broader ranging negative effect for gun owners.
Your analogy to meds is....interesting, but I don't think it is accurate or relevant.
The 'papers please' comment was a tongue in cheek reference to totalitarian states that are over-regulated to the point where the citizens are essentially subjects - a few would argue we are there already....
Let me go real slow. Follow the laws as currently written for reloaded ammunition.
Lots go over my head but not my ability to ID reloaded ammo.
Since you clearly have little experience with your "defy a lot of shooters" I will try to help.
Show me any factory ammo vintage, military what ever with extractor or ejector marks on the rim, or boltface impressions on the base of the casing.
If it does reloads and the seller best be on the approved list to do so
Can also check and see if the rounds are mixed headstamp and primer. This would apply to your typical gun show/range reloads.
Scratches, blimishes, color differences of the case would be another indicator. Reloaders can sort cases by head stamp, but it's real difficult to get once shot brass back to factory new condition.
Shotgun shells it is all in the primer used and damage to the crimp area a 7 year old can see it plus head stamp and rim damage.
See how simple it really is
Buying ammo thinking it is factory and sold as factory is one thing going in looking for cheap reloads and guys openly selling them is the major issue.
Most important if you are in doubt about any ammunition, ask someone experienced in the area.
Cheers
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The guy could have been loading with new brass. Which wouldn't have had any marks on it. I have shot loads of unknown origin never had issues. Is it bright no would I do it again likely. I don't think this is a matter that should be regulated either but the law as written is clear. It would be hard to say he was selling them as components.
Sure could have been and would he have run them through his dies??marks more than likely Where would he have found factory primers or coded the primer pockets as most factory does, some have crimped primer etc etc . More difficult to ID for sure but not impossible Also what percentage would this be. Very small I would say from what I have seen at shows. The majority take one quick look to ID
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I was glad to get the components for a good price. A little work to seperate them, but no problem.
I would never shoot someone elses loaded ammo. As stated, the quality that it was assembled with, indicates the likelyhood of terrible performance! And I personally donot shoot factory from my rifle either. Except for rimfire. No other choice.
Its not that i dont trust Factory ammo's saftey. I just know that my ammo, and loaded, tuned by me, will shoot better in my rifles.
When I shoot my rifles, i like to accomplish something with every round fired. Shooting factory just feels like a waste of time now.
It a great privilage to be able to reload our ammunition. And I am glad I have the opportunity to do so!
I would never shoot someone elses loaded ammo. As stated, the quality that it was assembled with, indicates the likelyhood of terrible performance! And I personally donot shoot factory from my rifle either. Except for rimfire. No other choice.
Its not that i dont trust Factory ammo's saftey. I just know that my ammo, and loaded, tuned by me, will shoot better in my rifles.
When I shoot my rifles, i like to accomplish something with every round fired. Shooting factory just feels like a waste of time now.
It a great privilage to be able to reload our ammunition. And I am glad I have the opportunity to do so!
Can't say I'd ever consider using someone else's reloads. If I blew my hand off or lost my eyesight,
how could I provide for my family? I think its an issue of responsibility. I'd rather take the time & spend
the appropriate amount of money to know that what I am doing as a hobby is safe.
how could I provide for my family? I think its an issue of responsibility. I'd rather take the time & spend
the appropriate amount of money to know that what I am doing as a hobby is safe.
I guess we'll just chalk it up to you being flawless in spotting something that has been hand loaded....
For the remainder, you just don't get it. I'm ok with that. Nice 'talking' to you.
Please don't hit your head too hard , I hate when I see a brain fall out of an ear canal
I don't have to agree with you. We are entitled to our own opinions and beliefs. Nothing wrong with that.
Not flawless in spotting hand loads but can hold my own with the best of them. Reloaded one hell of a lot of different rounds in 45 years with some excellent mentors and an endless supply of any component made in the early years since my DAD was a hard core gunnut with a small gun shop and full shelves. Still trying to use up some old 12 pounders of powder left over from those days
Any how I have nothing to prove to anyone
Nice debating with you also. Cheers
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