NEA Compact Carbine Stock install - Range report up.

Different types of aluminum anodize different colors, many other aspects as well.

One thing to note if your having issues, is that if it CAN lock back (enough travel mechanically) your gun may not have enough gas to cycle it far enough.

I will be buying one (I just had a horrific Virginia Vehicle Inspection, so my truck is stealing gun funds this month, I got so pampered in FL with no vehicle inspections).
 
KevinB said:
Different types of aluminum anodize different colors, many other aspects as well.

One thing to note if your having issues, is that if it CAN lock back (enough travel mechanically) your gun may not have enough gas to cycle it far enough.

I will be buying one (I just had a horrific Virginia Vehicle Inspection, so my truck is stealing gun funds this month, I got so pampered in FL with no vehicle inspections).
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If the gun wasn't cycling enough, I would be getting some feeding issues at least some of the time. I think it is a case of maybe the bolt cycling and bouncing back too quickly. It will catch on the back of the mag occasionally, dropping the bolt when I drop it.
 
Not necessarily -- you have around 1/4" of travel passed the back of the round before the bolt catch.

I've seen some guns ported for suppressors that run fine unsuppressed but don't lock back unsuppressed.
 
Mirk said:
It appears that the end cap on the buffer tube should have been 3/8” shorter as the stock will not lock into its shortest notch. Subsequently, that end cap seems to be made out of steel and appears to be adding a good amount of weight. I would like to know the reason for this as I am seriously considering cutting 3/8” off of it.
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I just took some measurements.
The steel endcap is about 3/4" thick and goes into the buffer tube about .300
I don't know if its threaded on or just press fit/glued in place, but I'm thinking a bit of material could have been removed to allow the bolt to travel a bit further and ensure last shot bolt held open.

It will be a little while before I can work on this build as I have my plate full right now, but I'll be curious to see how everyone else tackles this.

Also, my bolt carrier/buffer came with a trimmed nylon piece.... well shorter than the OP's pictures at least.

Unless the spring is binding up, I may just take out the nylon end piece and mill off a little from the carrier to get the travel I need, assuming I need any.

We'll see
 
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Showin using .300BK ammo, but notice the gap between the bolt at the bolt catch, and the end of the casing in the magazine

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What can happen sometimes is the bolt catch can catch on the bolt carrier not the bolt -- its a precarious spot and drops off easily, it will also usually drop when you remove the mag.



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Fair enough. It did cycle and catch reliably with the stock...uh, stock. Though many variables have changed with the new stock. Who knows. I'm passed the point of trouble shooting this rifle. It works good enough for what I do with it.

I will trim a bit more and check to make sure the gas system hasn't loosened off, but no more major interventions unless something breaks lol
 
FastFord58 said:
There is a QD slot, but it is no picture. It is on the rear face of the stationary piece. It is well hidden!

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here it is:

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HEY DAVE!!!
Your Welcome :p
On a side note yes hydraulics would have allowed you still to retain you original bolt but hell I am digg'n the new bolt design and it even seems more robust rifle system with this new design on the bolt.
Kudo's
Signed...
The Shill ;)
 
FastFord58 said:
Fair enough. It did cycle and catch reliably with the stock...uh, stock. Though many variables have changed with the new stock. Who knows. I'm passed the point of trouble shooting this rifle. It works good enough for what I do with it.

I will trim a bit more and check to make sure the gas system hasn't loosened off, but no more major interventions unless something breaks lol
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Can you and anyone else tell me if your bolt carrier can stand up with the bolt retracted. Mine cannot.
Meaning assemble the bolt carrier stand it up on the end of the bolt with the bolt pulled out/extended.

This is to test the gas rings if they are worn out.

I have tried two different bolts in the carrier and neither will hold its weight, grant it I have not shot it yet with this setup but this tells me the bolt carrier is machined not in spec.

on a side note im kind of pissed it does not lock back on the last notch because of the added end cap.

jmiddy
 
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My bolt fit seems fine. It is a brand new bolt and the gas rings are snug. Doesn’t seem any different then any other BCG I have.

So get this, my bolt catch would not catch the front of the bolt, it was impossible to pull the carrier back far enough. I contacted NEA and they told me to cut 1-2 coils off of the spring. I had to cut 2 coils off but I can now get the bolt catch to properly engage. Not sure if the rifle functions now but they told me to do it… so I did…
 
Mirk said:
My bolt fit seems fine. It is a brand new bolt and the gas rings are snug. Doesn’t seem any different then any other BCG I have.

So get this, my bolt catch would not catch the front of the bolt, it was impossible to pull the carrier back far enough. I contacted NEA and they told me to cut 1-2 coils off of the spring. I had to cut 2 coils off but I can now get the bolt catch to properly engage. Not sure if the rifle functions now but they told me to do it… so I did…
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Yea youshouldnt have to do that. I tried both my bolts and they are snug in both my other carriers but not this one.
Guess ill take it to the range this weekend, if it doesnt work im sending it back, customers shouldnt have to be the R&D for a company.
 
You are completely right, but I ain't sending it to them so they can cut the spring and send it back... if it doesn't function now I will be contacting them to get it resolved. Quite simply, I want the stock and I am not going to give up on it, beta tester or not it's going to function one way or the other.... .... .... I hope...
 
Mirk said:
You are completely right, but I ain't sending it to them so they can cut the spring and send it back... if it doesn't function now I will be contacting them to get it resolved. Quite simply, I want the stock and I am not going to give up on it, beta tester or not it's going to function one way or the other.... .... .... I hope...
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what a sad post....:( why should any of you have to be Guinea pigs? when will NEA get their act together? Wait for it to work, then release it to the public for sale....the tail cant wag the dog.
 
I feel your sentiments… since I first saw it I have very much wanted the stock, if I have to dance with the devil to get it so be it… this is the course of events… I ordered it on Feb 6, with a supposed 4 week wait stated; I received a Canada Post shipping notification on Mar 22, about 2 weeks late; the stock actually shipped April 30, over a month later… now that I actually have it some month and a half over due it has an obvious problem… the bolt catch would not engage…

Subsequently I purchased a 7.5” NEA barrel, don’t get me started on that, but I figured if this thing is going to run properly it damn well better run with their own barrel… not a single other part I own is NEA…

Needless to say I am not impressed with NEA, but I want the damn stock, and I am prepared to go through hell and high water to have it… the plan is to get it to the range this weekend, function test it and report back… fingers crossed…

Oh and in case I failed to mention it before… It is by far one of the coolest things I have… friends keep asking me if I am sure I am allowed to have it… fits the bill perfectly.
 
jdman said:
what a sad post....:( why should any of you have to be Guinea pigs? when will NEA get their act together? Wait for it to work, then release it to the public for sale....the tail cant wag the dog.
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The only logical answer is that they are only chasing dollar signs and they don't care about the product or the consumer.

I really wish I had the capital to setup my own shop.

Edited to add: That's not really fair. NEA has had some products that I have liked and they had been very good with their warranty.
 
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Well just tried to install the stock on my lower, looked good.

Would not catch the bolt unless i reefed on the charging handle while using the bad lever to lock it, there is no way its going to catch the bolt.
Im sending it back without even trying it. ####.

Good points
Looks Good.

Bad points
Colour mismatched from original picture of original

Set Screw sticking out the side for the retract, can see some blood in someones future not mine though.

Stock will not compress and lock on the last notch, due to added end cap.

Bolt Hold open will not catch the bolt.

WTF seriously WTF.

Sending back tommorow for money back.

jmiddy out.
 
I've got the same issue, will not hold open at all, solution?

Just fixed it... half of the bumper, and 2 coils on spring removed. Can't say i'm very impressed. This issue should have come up in their test rifles.

FastFord58 said:
I was careful to measure the gas key clearance when I trimmed, and there is no evidence that it is hitting now. As it stands, there is maybe an eighth of an inch of bolt excursion at the rear of the bolt hold catch. Before I trimmed, the bolt overlapped the bolt catch by a good amount. The bolt catch is in spec itself. Some one on facebook messaged me about having a bolt catch issue as well. Agilent one (in this thread) does not have the bolt catch issue. It is strange, but I don't know enough people with the stock to find out how spotty this issue is.

Raising the red dot a half inch should solve the face bumping issue. They were light bumps. Enough to be aware of, but not painful.

I'm going to muck around with it a bit in the coming weeks.
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I haven't done the coil cut yet, but I will if reports come back saying it works still lol.

The gun works now, just doesn't always catch the bolt. I don't want to risk breaking it fully at this point.
 
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