Now I spoke with Joe and he doesn't really know how to respond to this thread. He spoke with the person running icearms as he was a partner with it he said he had a fight with him over some things and no longer is associated with ice arms. So they no longer have anything to do with each other anymore as he has cut ties with the company. Joe had a plan to help the company grow and leave at the end of the year when everything was running smooth he has changed his plans and no longer deals with them at all. Joe doesn't like unhappy customers and he really does go above and beyond in helping many people. I'm not even sure he would be ok with me posting this online but I like Joe and he helps allot of people out even when it's not cost beneficial to him to do it.
I've seen him make things for disabled shooters simply because they want to enjoy the sport. He has made things for wheel chairs and stuff like that as well because no one else makes it. Sometimes it takes a while for him to get things done and sometimes he forgets about some things it's hard to keep track of everything have to check paperwork make sure invoices are correct and make sure every customer is happy with the work. I've had things wait at Joes shop for longer then normal simply because he was to busy to work on it I even tell Joe if your busy just deal with it later no big deal do what makes you money first. That's the way I look at it if my job takes time and doesn't cost allot and he has another customer paying good money for a rifle I would expect him to help that customer first I've even told him this.
(The rifle I brought him was a royal pain in the rear to work with) I find that with many gunsmiths his turn around time is better then allot of them because they all get backed up because there is allot more work to be done then there are gunsmiths to do the work. Someone asked if I worked for Joe I have to say no I don’t work for Joe. I don’t mind helping him out if he needs it as he makes an effort and that’s rare to see in allot of people today. Sometimes things don't work 100 percent out of the box and they need to be broken in or tinkered with I've found 1 rifle he made for me I had to take it apart and put it back together as the bolts were to tight and it had problems but he couldn't of know it would of had problems like that because when he tested it worked fine.
When I used it had a problem a part got stuck I took it apart and didn't put it back together as tight and it works just fine now it was a stock problem not a craftsmanship problem. I've had firearms from big manufactures that have had more problems. Sometimes a mistake is made people are only human its how they fix the problem that makes the difference. Now Joe speaks English just fine but he doesn’t write in English very well that’s why he makes his responses simple and quick and when you speak to him it’s a more in depth answer I find he sometimes tells people way to much of what happened and I find him to be very honest about things.