I finally took the big leap and ordered my dream 1911 to join my stainless 1911 collection. While I did try to find where I could buy one in Canada, there was only one dealer (who was helpful) but the lead time could be as long as 10 to 12 months. After reading a few comments about IRUNGUNS.CA I decide to see if I could find one in stock through the US gun auction sites. I found the one I wanted and the price was reasonable, even with the import fee.
I will update my transaction experience and include an overview of the gun and it's quality and accuracy when I receive it.
Import fees are well defined on IRUNGUNS web site
http://www.irunguns.ca/import-process.php
Import Process (so far, I will update each step)
1. 26/05/13 I registered with GunBroker and cited IRUNGUNS LLC will facilitate FFL transfers. They enabled my account and I contacted dealers that have a FFL, as it seemed like the easier route to get the import process started.
2. 27/05/13 I found a dealer that was okay with the transaction, http://www.5280armory.com/home.html
3. 29/05/13 I have purchase the gun and filled out IRUNGUNS import form.
4. 30/05/13 IRUNGUNS sent their FFL and the gun was shipped from dealer.
5. 01/06/13 Parcel delivered to IRUNGUNS USA location.
6. 17/07/13 Received the gun . Total landed price completed was about 10% below Canadian quote.
7. 17/07/13 Took the gun to the range. Only had time to shoot 100 rounds of Wolf 200gr SWC. Accuracy is exceptional. See 15 yard grouping pic.
At this point, I wait, as .....
"we close all exports out on the 15th of each month and apply for all the permits. Once everything is processed and shipped out the export will arrive in Canada the first week of the following month. It will take a few days to clear customs and once back at our warehouse we will re-inventory everything, package and ship it out. You will receive a final invoice for the GST, importation, shipping to your place of residence, and tracking information through Canada Post. This will be followed by a payment link. Once we receive payment we will ship out your order. "
...so I'm hoping to see the gun around July 31ish....
Actual pistol
Les Baer 1911 Concept VI, .45 ACP, 5 in BBL, Prem Chk Cocobolo Grips, Stainless Finish, 8 Rds
Product Description
Les Baer pistols are custom built by hand and may take up to 6-8 months to complete depending upon current demand.
Identical to the Concept V© but with a Baer deluxe fixed combat rear sight.
Baer's line of Concept pistols pushes the envelope for the perfect combination of ahead-of-the-art design, true custom craftsmanship, unparalleled performance, and the best value in the firearms industry. All Concept© pistols come with a crisp 4 lb. pull and all are guaranteed to deliver 3" groups at 50 yards.
The Baer Concept VI© is a full size custom 1911 with features that include:
Baer steel NM frame, NM slide and NM barrel with Baer stainless bushing • Slide fitted to frame • Double serrated slide • LBC deluxe low mount rear sight with hidden rear leaf • Baer dovetail front sight • Baer beavertail grip safety w/pad • Baer checkered slide stop • Tuned Baer extractor • Baer extended ejector • Baer deluxe hammer and sear • Lowered and flared ejection port • Polished feed ramp and throated barrel • Baer flat serrated mainspring housing • Beveled magazine well• Baer extended ambi safety • Baer fitted speed trigger with action job • Baer Premium Checkered Cocobolo grips • Tuned for total reliability • (1) 8-round premium magazine
10 rounds at 15 yards. I can see getting the so-called 3" grouping at 25 yards plus, in the right hands. It took me 100 rounds of practice to get this tight of a grouping.
Overall thoughts about the gun. It's actually nothing exceptional from a cosmetic point of view. I would actually just think it's a stock 70 series 1911 from a distance. That being said, it's the hardest tightest slide I have ever functioned. Fit and finish is nice, but so is my Dan Wesson SSC and S&W E series. Being a layman, I'm not sure which of the 3 has more so called "junk" parts in it. But I would say all 3 are of the same quality visually. I'm somewhat disappointed that the Baer came with a blued barrel instead of their stainless barrel and I will probably change the combat sights. The DW SSC is not as accurate as the Les Baer, with the S&W not far behind both.
The DW and S&W are about $700.00 cheaper then the Les Baer. So, I think I will have to give the gun some time to determine if I see the value.
I will update my transaction experience and include an overview of the gun and it's quality and accuracy when I receive it.
Import fees are well defined on IRUNGUNS web site
http://www.irunguns.ca/import-process.php
Import Process (so far, I will update each step)
1. 26/05/13 I registered with GunBroker and cited IRUNGUNS LLC will facilitate FFL transfers. They enabled my account and I contacted dealers that have a FFL, as it seemed like the easier route to get the import process started.
2. 27/05/13 I found a dealer that was okay with the transaction, http://www.5280armory.com/home.html
3. 29/05/13 I have purchase the gun and filled out IRUNGUNS import form.
4. 30/05/13 IRUNGUNS sent their FFL and the gun was shipped from dealer.
5. 01/06/13 Parcel delivered to IRUNGUNS USA location.
6. 17/07/13 Received the gun . Total landed price completed was about 10% below Canadian quote.
7. 17/07/13 Took the gun to the range. Only had time to shoot 100 rounds of Wolf 200gr SWC. Accuracy is exceptional. See 15 yard grouping pic.
At this point, I wait, as .....
"we close all exports out on the 15th of each month and apply for all the permits. Once everything is processed and shipped out the export will arrive in Canada the first week of the following month. It will take a few days to clear customs and once back at our warehouse we will re-inventory everything, package and ship it out. You will receive a final invoice for the GST, importation, shipping to your place of residence, and tracking information through Canada Post. This will be followed by a payment link. Once we receive payment we will ship out your order. "
...so I'm hoping to see the gun around July 31ish....
Actual pistol
Les Baer 1911 Concept VI, .45 ACP, 5 in BBL, Prem Chk Cocobolo Grips, Stainless Finish, 8 Rds
Product Description
Les Baer pistols are custom built by hand and may take up to 6-8 months to complete depending upon current demand.
Identical to the Concept V© but with a Baer deluxe fixed combat rear sight.
Baer's line of Concept pistols pushes the envelope for the perfect combination of ahead-of-the-art design, true custom craftsmanship, unparalleled performance, and the best value in the firearms industry. All Concept© pistols come with a crisp 4 lb. pull and all are guaranteed to deliver 3" groups at 50 yards.
The Baer Concept VI© is a full size custom 1911 with features that include:
Baer steel NM frame, NM slide and NM barrel with Baer stainless bushing • Slide fitted to frame • Double serrated slide • LBC deluxe low mount rear sight with hidden rear leaf • Baer dovetail front sight • Baer beavertail grip safety w/pad • Baer checkered slide stop • Tuned Baer extractor • Baer extended ejector • Baer deluxe hammer and sear • Lowered and flared ejection port • Polished feed ramp and throated barrel • Baer flat serrated mainspring housing • Beveled magazine well• Baer extended ambi safety • Baer fitted speed trigger with action job • Baer Premium Checkered Cocobolo grips • Tuned for total reliability • (1) 8-round premium magazine
10 rounds at 15 yards. I can see getting the so-called 3" grouping at 25 yards plus, in the right hands. It took me 100 rounds of practice to get this tight of a grouping.
Overall thoughts about the gun. It's actually nothing exceptional from a cosmetic point of view. I would actually just think it's a stock 70 series 1911 from a distance. That being said, it's the hardest tightest slide I have ever functioned. Fit and finish is nice, but so is my Dan Wesson SSC and S&W E series. Being a layman, I'm not sure which of the 3 has more so called "junk" parts in it. But I would say all 3 are of the same quality visually. I'm somewhat disappointed that the Baer came with a blued barrel instead of their stainless barrel and I will probably change the combat sights. The DW SSC is not as accurate as the Les Baer, with the S&W not far behind both.
The DW and S&W are about $700.00 cheaper then the Les Baer. So, I think I will have to give the gun some time to determine if I see the value.
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