Swiss Arms rifles being examined for reclassification?

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There will be no compensation unless ordered by the courts , It will be a loss that will be absorbed by the owner if all else fails .I am sure there could be a lot of legal fall out on this matter and not directed at the RCMP over the handling of this matter . It is really a train wreck that not only affects the SAN rifles but every rifle since the SAN were given an FRT I see a big problem on the horizon for everyone .
The RCMP paid out compensation to the BD38 owners quickly and without any court action.
 
Here's my letter to the PM on the topic of the Kriss and Swiss Arms.

I give permission for alteration, direct use, and reposting in other communities. If reposting in other communities just give credit to the letter thread and the author please ;).

Send it to at least the PM, your MP, and the Public safety minister. Print some copies and find some friends that will do the same, leave it in businesses, and do what you have to in order to spread the word.
 
Is it nearly $3mill for the swiss arms?

Keep in mind that would be compensation alone to owners. This doesn't take into account the cost of educating the Firearms Officers, Firearms retailers, and every licensed firearm owner in Canada, which in itself can easily cost more than a million dollars. Nor does the cost of buy backs take into account the cost of street level police work should RCMP be required to seize a newly Prohibited firearm.

Yes most of that is a direct copy from my letter ;).
 
Lovely, it doesnt change the answer that if this debacle blows up, it could easily cost over 3 mill. And now we get the kriss vector involved, add even more money to that.

Correct. In fact lets extrapolate some of the funds this would take;

If compensation is paid $2 475 000
Education of firearms owners via post, on a number of 1 700 000 license holders at $0.63 per postage stamp = $1 173 000

Grand total in just two of the steps required to pay out this debacle will be $3 648 000

Of course the 1.7 Million licensed owners was round down, and this doesn't take into account RCMP internal education, street level police work and other incurring costs of which there will be many.

*Edited after research done on amount of known license holders, the number went up*
 
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So worst case scenario and owners get screwed, I mean compensated. Does that include mags, which are proprietary? Or let's say you had your SAN rebarreled with a thousand dollar barrel?
I've sent letters to all my MPs, renewed/extended my CSSA/NFA memberships. What else.
 
So worst case scenario and owners get screwed, I mean compensated. Does that include mags, which are proprietary? Or let's say you had your SAN rebarreled with a thousand dollar barrel?
I've sent letters to all my MPs, renewed/extended my CSSA/NFA memberships. What else.


You strip the receiver bare, and give them nothing more.
 
Whoever imported and sold them, I would imagine (if there's no compensation).
would make a great class action suit for a lawyer to take on given the number of rifles in country making it cheaper for SAN owners to try and get their hard earned money back.
 
The RCMP paid out compensation to the BD38 owners quickly and without any court action.

That's because Vic Toews made them. The memo the RCMP send to Vic Toews office is that they were revoking the certs. and confiscating the guns without compensation. The RCMP suggested to Vic's office it would be too costly to compensate anyone...
 
Just out of curiosity, what difference is that going to make if SAN and JR can't pull rabbits out of their hats and the RCMP simply applies written law at their discretion as they've indicated in their correspondence?

I don't know for certain what difference sending money to one of our Lobby Groups would make. I have a pretty good idea though what difference it would make if all we do is pi$$ and moan on the internet.
 
That's because Vic Toews made them. The memo the RCMP send to Vic Toews office is that they were revoking the certs. and confiscating the guns without compensation. The RCMP suggested to Vic's office it would be too costly to compensate anyone...

I just love the way citizens are made to pay for mistakes that the RCMP make. Too costly to compensate but confiscation is ok! The system is broken and needs to be fixed, or given a severe enema!
 

As an alternative too revocation and to avoid future financial compensation liabilities consideration could be given to legislative changes to the firearms act to allow owners to be grandfathered, thus permitting owners to retain possession if their firearms, should certain conditions be meet.

Why the hell didn't they do that! instead of spending tax payer money on an RCMP F'up!

Quite a surprising recommendation from the RCMP however.
 
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