I wanted a short shotgun, what's my next move?

I'd grab a norinco 8.5" with AR style stock or if you want an 18" barrel with pistol grip I'd say grab a folder then you have a stock when you need it.

Here is mine


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A bit of hack n slash would be the cheapest option. Even cheaper than buying a 18.5 barrel.

The Chinese barrels would be decent to try but feeding issues isn't something I'm willing to deal with. Doing some work to clean them up isn't that bad, it might be a good learning experience but spending money then time for something that might not work in the end isn't appealing.

If I'm cutting then might as well turn it into a full project. Some paint etc....
 
I bought a cheap wingmaster action off of EE, along with a Chinese 12.5" bbl, and a speedfeed stock set. Honestly, I have like $350 into (which is barely over what a Norc/DA will run you), with a nice slick action and nice furniture. The Chinese bbl fit perfect, and I haven't had any issues with it yet.
 
chinese barrels fit on my old school wingmaster no prob and the 18" wingmaster barrel fits on my other grizzly no prob, same with a vent rib express barrel

mix and match! :
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Dexter Morgan said:
Forget the Chinese junk.

Just buy this;

http://theshootingedge.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1601
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I have 1 with the pistol grip and spring assisted and ghost ring sights. I also have a 8.5 inch shotgun as well as one with a 18.5 inch barrel.

Now what I have found is this the 8.5 with target loads at 20 yards has a huge pattern (it's outrages) It also has problems going through a plastic bottle full of water (Target loads)

The 14 and 18.5 inch shotguns blow the same plastic bottle into little pieces at the same range. Now the Fabarm you can put a choke on it as well which makes it much better with shot it's loud to shoot. The 8.5 inch domino arms punchs you in the face when you shoot it the 14 inch Fabarm with a muzzle brake doesn't and the 18.5 inch Mossberg 590 A1 just seems to work the best for accuracy feel and durability. The Fabarm is less weight the the Domion arms and it's way smoother then both the Mossberg and Domion arms.

Now you say you want a camp gun the question is are you backpacking or car camping? If you are go with something with more capacity. If your backpacking take a Domion Arms Backpacker because it's less weight load it with a bear banger to try and scare the bear off first then a rubber slug then a real slug if that failed. Grizzly bears are the only one that don't really care about the noise were black bears run when they hear the bang (most of the time) Grizzly in the National parks get a bear banger, ruber slug, bear banger, real slug that's how they load the 18.5 Mossberg shotgun I saw them scare a bear off because it was backing up traffic and people were getting way to close. The bear didn't run until the second bear banger because it knew pain would follow if it didn't move.

If you want a cheapo camp firearm just go with a SKS it's good enough for bears if you use hunting ammo it's just as cheap as the shotguns and who cares if you beat on it's not worth much money. It's not as small as the short shotguns but it works. (I find it feels like less weight as well)

For Dlask he tends to make things to order so just call him and ask if he can make a batch or when he will get a batch of them done because they go quick...

If you live in my neck of the woods I can take the shotguns out and show you the diffrences and see what you like.

I also have a Borto Hiker 410 shotgun that I used to carry allot for bears don't under estimated the Winchested PDX1 ammo in 410 it packs a really big punch out of that 13 inch barrel it kicks you good too. (Most people that laughed at it shoot it and go wow that was impressive)
 
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dont load with a bear banger,rubber,slug i have shot bear bangers at bears the problem with then is that if the bear is close enough to be an issue its closer than where the banger is going to go off, the bangier will go off on the wrong side of the bear and it will come towards you, i would also advise aginst the use of lesser leathals if its enough of a problem your shooting at it then actually shoot at it, i load a target load,buck,slug the target load is to shoot into the ground to hopefully scare it off, also good for if you see a ditch chicken :)

just my .02
 
If your budget allows $2200 +

And you are ok with a shorty restricted version thats a semi auto.

And you want something that says Benelli M4 SBS...thats the one in the middle btw.




If its a pump on a budget - there is always the 12.5 Grizzly thats not a piece of junk IMO since mine has been used in timed events for over 4 years now and still running just fine.
 
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