How to select a holster/What are you using?

silverfoxdj said:
Just a question: How often do police draw their guns compared to competitive / recreational shooters?

So why do we compare the two..?
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At a min of twice a day not including training. I would wager that there are few recreational or competition shooters, other than the professionals, that come close to that number.

And a counter question: How many times do competition shooters lives or the lives of others depend on their draw?

But you are correct police use =/= game use

Shawn
 
KillerPM said:
Tim,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my question. The club I am a member at does a club level PPC competition every week. I think its the 1500. I probably wouldn't take it any further than that. If I decided to get into IPSC, I would obviously do more than club level stuff.

Thanks for all the information.
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We shoot mostly service and 600 matches Sunday night at BRRC, occasionally a 1500 or U.S. Marshals match. Grab a bladetech they are cheap and easy to find locally. Stay away from dropleg rigs they are not allowed in competition and are frowned upon at the club level.
 
redddogg69 said:
We shoot mostly service and 600 matches Sunday night at BRRC, occasionally a 1500 or U.S. Marshals match. Grab a bladetech they are cheap and easy to find locally. Stay away from dropleg rigs they are not allowed in competition and are frowned upon at the club level.
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This is really good information (since BRRC is my club and the 600 matches are what I am wanting to do).

Thanks!
 
KillerPM said:
This is really good information (since BRRC is my club and the 600 matches are what I am wanting to do).

Thanks!
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You can always come out on a Sunday night and ask questions and see what people are shooting and using. We are a friendly bunch and look forward to new shooters. Also it builds a rapport with the directors so when you ask for a holster course they might actually run one.
 
I used a Blade-Tech drop holster with my CZ-75B in IPSC and remove the drop/offset extension for IDPA, and also use two Blade-Tech magazine pouches. I shoot a 686 in IDPA with a Blade-Tech holster and use North Mountain Speedloader Holders for that game. I would recommend Blade-Tech as the equipment works, is robust, and can easily be identified by most people so they know you are compliant with the rules.
 
shawn said:
At a min of twice a day not including training. I would wager that there are few recreational or competition shooters, other than the professionals, that come close to that number.

And a counter question: How many times do competition shooters lives or the lives of others depend on their draw?

But you are correct police use =/= game use

Shawn
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Putting it on and taking it off doesn't count.
If you remove these than the average competition shooter draws his gun A LOT more often than the average cop (heck, even with these numbers in I susupect we draw a lot more). The ironic part to that is, as you point out, we never draw with someone's life on the line. The cops do and people's lives depend on it when the cop draws...and we still practice A LOT more than the average cop.
I'm not saying that to slam cops, but rather the system that doesn't encourage them to be more proficient.
 
PapaHotel01 said:
Putting it on and taking it off doesn't count.
If you remove these than the average competition shooter draws his gun A LOT more often than the average cop (heck, even with these numbers in I susupect we draw a lot more). The ironic part to that is, as you point out, we never draw with someone's life on the line. The cops do and people's lives depend on it when the cop draws...and we still practice A LOT more than the average cop.
I'm not saying that to slam cops, but rather the system that doesn't encourage them to be more proficient.
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Sure it counts, jut like all the draws you are counting at matches, competitions etc count, that you are including. Also you are comparing apples to oranges again. The average cop =/= the competition shooter you are talking about. You want a fair comparison it would be cop = average shooter. IE the dude that shoots maybe one competition a year, or cop shooting instructor = competition shooter. And also a lot if not most police will practice draw daily. I was taught to do at least 5 draws in the morning when coming on shift, I used 2 to even it out for the people that will do the bare min.

I guess my point is that a lot of people throw around the cop comparisons with no clue about the reality of what they do or how much they do it.

Shawn
 
Not to further derail this thread, but to compare a duty holster to an IDPA/IPSC holster isn't a fair comparison, in that, a duty holster also has to incorporate more retention so as to prevent (as much as reasonably possible, anyways) a bad guy taking a constable's sidearm from him in a fight. Whereas with a sporting holster, the amount of retention is based solely on the fact that you don't want your pistol jumping out of said holster whilst moving around.
 
Lexthedestroyer said:
Not to further derail this thread, but to compare a duty holster to an IDPA/IPSC holster isn't a fair comparison, in that, a duty holster also has to incorporate more retention so as to prevent (as much as reasonably possible, anyways) a bad guy taking a constable's sidearm from him in a fight. Whereas with a sporting holster, the amount of retention is based solely on the fact that you don't want your pistol jumping out of said holster whilst moving around.
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even that level of retention isnt really needed, all it really needs to do is hold your gun there from load and make ready till the beep, then your hand is usually on it
 
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