Non-restricted firearms registration for Quebec customer

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johnone said:
Excellent, we will introduce a new policy, Marstar will no longer apply any laws or regulations without asking the client.... a question in our shopping cart could be "do you wish to register this firearm ? Yes or no ?
or perhaps something like "kindly advise if you wis to purchase any firearm without any paper record, yes, no ??

Lets get real people
John
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The law states that it is up to the Quebec resident whether or not he register's the gun....why are you having such trouble understanding this? This is what the OP meant with that statement.
 
johnone said:
Excellent, we will introduce a new policy, Marstar will no longer apply any laws or regulations without asking the client.... a question in our shopping cart could be "do you wish to register this firearm ? Yes or no ?
or perhaps something like "kindly advise if you wis to purchase any firearm without any paper record, yes, no ??
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It seems you do not want to let it go, your call...

Why, of all non-Quebec based non-restricted firearm resellers, was Marstar the ONLY ONE still registering non-restricted firearm for Quebec customer during the time of the injunction ?

IF all other reseller were conducting illegal transaction, why NONE OF THEM got prosecuted ?
 
..and since John refuses to actually state that they are no longer registering non-restricted firearms purchased by Quebec residents, I can only assume that they are indeed still having them registered....
 
Wired leader said:
So again....I will ask.
What is Marstar's current policy on purchases by Quebec residents?...for non-restricted.
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I can't believe this, have we not said we are NOT registering LGs to Quebec buyers, there is NO LONGER provision to do so even if we wanted to....
John
 
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"Perhaps he has answered the OP's questions, but I for one would like John to clarify what Marstar's current policy is on purchases, but Quebec residents. I have not said anything bad about John or Marstar, but feel he has danced around the questions and will not flat out state what their policy is. "

HOW MANY DAMN TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF ??

WE ARE NOT REGISTERING ANY LONG GUNS TO ANYONE IN ANY PROVINCE

John
 
Thanks John!
Post 165 is the first post where you actually stated that you are NOT registering non-restricted guns for Quebec purchasers.
...as for your last post....if you stated that before post 165, please indicate when.
You kept referring to the law...and by your own admission, you were registering long guns after the law was changed....

No need to get your panties in a bunch
Perhaps if you had just answered simple questions with simple answers instead of dancing around and talking about the "laws of the day"
 
If I have a beef with a dealer I don't complain a whole lot.
I'll be fair and tell him once and if that doesn't bring changes in attitude/behavior I vote with my wallet.
In other words I go somewhere else.
I'd personally consider a dealer going above and beyond what the law requires to keep Big Brother informed of my personal information as a breach of trust and I won't deal with him.
That's my take on it. Others may feel different.
 
johnone said:
I would respectfully suggest you read a typical license issued in this province, simply put, you are wrong
John
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In what way am I wrong? As of 2012-06-29, when the Firearms Information Regulations (Non-restricted Firearms) SOR/2012-138 was registered, what I stated in regards to records is correct. I may be mistaken on the QC transfer part though.

FYI I worked in a gun shop at the time the regulations were passed, so I am well aware of what the conditions currently are, and the changes that happened post C-391.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Man I wish marstar had something I wanted. I want to buy something from them. All this nonsense makes me feel dirty to be on CGN right now. We attack a vendor that has done good works, we cry about his adherence, right or wrong to ridiculous legislation. We all need to take a look in the mirror and realize that it is OUR FAULT that the firearms act is in place, not the businesses that need to work under it, incorrectly or not. Stop worrying about if the government knows you have guns and what they are, and START worrying that the government knows that you will BEND OVER and GIVE THEM UP. Blaming Marstar because of an error in policy (again right or wrong) that doesn't shield a firearms purchase is cowardice. When Justin Trudeau says you must register your guns again, send in a note saying "No". When they say you must, say "No", when they come for your guns, say "No". We should all be nice until it is time to not be nice. Marstar can't do it for you, CSSA can't do it for you, NFA can't do it for you, Ian Thompson can't do it for you (he did it for himself), only the individual can determine what their freedoms and rights are worth, don't hide behind a little piece of paper (or lack thereof).

Now off to Marstars site to see if something strikes my fancy.
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Finally. Someone (other than John) that makes some sense here...Sheesh.
 
John thinks he is the only one in Canada to understand the law, all others are ill informed, and he is the only one to follow the law, all other businesses should have been prosecuted. They did not follow the law at that time when nobody else registered non-restricted firearms.

thank you John to be the only one informed and law abiding dealer in Canada
 
Tuco Pike said:
Man I wish marstar had something I wanted. I want to buy something from them. All this nonsense makes me feel dirty to be on CGN right now. We attack a vendor that has done good works, we cry about his adherence, right or wrong to ridiculous legislation. We all need to take a look in the mirror and realize that it is OUR FAULT that the firearms act is in place, not the businesses that need to work under it, incorrectly or not. Stop worrying about if the government knows you have guns and what they are, and START worrying that the government knows that you will BEND OVER and GIVE THEM UP. Blaming Marstar because of an error in policy (again right or wrong) that doesn't shield a firearms purchase is cowardice. When Justin Trudeau says you must register your guns again, send in a note saying "No". When they say you must, say "No", when they come for your guns, say "No". We should all be nice until it is time to not be nice. Marstar can't do it for you, CSSA can't do it for you, NFA can't do it for you, Ian Thompson can't do it for you (he did it for himself), only the individual can determine what their freedoms and rights are worth, don't hide behind a little piece of paper (or lack thereof).

Now off to Marstars site to see if something strikes my fancy.
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The man has a point.
As I said before burning a scapegoat like Marstar in effigy is a feel good tactic to cover our own guilt for bending over and taking it dry every time the government or the bureaucrats told us to bend over and take it dry.
The almost immoveable APATHY on the part of Canadian gun owners is and always has been the problem.
Another important factor is the fact that our shooting rights organizations are kept small and weak because of those amazingly impossible to pry open Canadian wallets.
The money and resources of American gun owners focused through several organizations the most notable of which is the NRA has made for some critical court victories in the United States leading to the legal recognition of 2A (Heller decision) as an individual right and CCW in each and every state over the course of 30 years and all this in the face of extremely gun hostile Clinton and Obama administrations.
Justin Trudeau, true to his fathers commitment to completely disarming the Canadian citizenry, will give us another chance to revisit the decisions we made immediately post c-68.
Not many times in life do we get to revisit past decisions.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Man I wish marstar had something I wanted. I want to buy something from them. All this nonsense makes me feel dirty to be on CGN right now. We attack a vendor that has done good works, we cry about his adherence, right or wrong to ridiculous legislation. We all need to take a look in the mirror and realize that it is OUR FAULT that the firearms act is in place, not the businesses that need to work under it, incorrectly or not. Stop worrying about if the government knows you have guns and what they are, and START worrying that the government knows that you will BEND OVER and GIVE THEM UP. Blaming Marstar because of an error in policy (again right or wrong) that doesn't shield a firearms purchase is cowardice. When Justin Trudeau says you must register your guns again, send in a note saying "No". When they say you must, say "No", when they come for your guns, say "No". We should all be nice until it is time to not be nice. Marstar can't do it for you, CSSA can't do it for you, NFA can't do it for you, Ian Thompson can't do it for you (he did it for himself), only the individual can determine what their freedoms and rights are worth, don't hide behind a little piece of paper (or lack thereof).

Now off to Marstars site to see if something strikes my fancy.
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Agree.
 
Save all the strutting, crowing and tough talk for JT and the LPC.
They're the ones who'll need to hear it.
2015 to 2019 will be the time of test and trial for the Canadian firearms owners community when the ones full of :bsFlag: will be separated from the ones with the balls.
Bruce Montague was the SINGULAR stand up guy of the whole Canadian firearms owners community in the trials and tribulations following the c-68 shyt storm.
Bruce did some dumb things that detracted from his credibility but he was the ONLY one to stand tall in that period of time.
And because he stood ALONE Bruce faced the full wrath of McGuinty and A/G Bryant and the Ontario government.
They destroyed his life and even stole his home.
 
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johnone said:
WIREDLEADER
"Perhaps he has answered the OP's questions, but I for one would like John to clarify what Marstar's current policy is on purchases, but Quebec residents. I have not said anything bad about John or Marstar, but feel he has danced around the questions and will not flat out state what their policy is. "

HOW MANY DAMN TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF ??

WE ARE NOT REGISTERING ANY LONG GUNS TO ANYONE IN ANY PROVINCE

John
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So, let me get this straight, are you implying that you are not registering long guns, in any province, as per the law, but instead, allowing the owners in Quebec, to assume that responsibility, as per the law, if it indeed stands up, and becomes law?

So, basically, you are obeying the law. Oh, I think I get it, it's a legal thing, that legitimate businesses do. Cool.


Wow, I only read this thread for the $h1t show, and frankly, I expected more. There were very few insults, only a couple frantic screams of boycott, and only one call for a lynching. BORING.

To offend, I will leave this here, in the hopes that it brings out the idiots:
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and this:
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johnone said:
Read up on the matter, learn how many changes were made from the time the LGR went down until recently....
John
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wow what a joke, question after question with no solid answer exept annoyed replys, There probably is an answer somewhere in this thread but im not wasting my life looking for it i was just curious as i dont live in quebec but if i did and asked such a question i would be pissssssed at the answers i got from Johnone.
What a joke of a thread.
 
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