U.S. Made M14 Receivers?

NavyCuda said:
I think your bias makes you look for issues, if not imagine them.

I was going to build my wife a rifle on a LRB receiver, but you hate the Chinese stuff so much, screw it, I'm going to build her rifle on a Norinco receiver.
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Very happy for you and your wife and humbled I have that much influence with you.

A blown up Norc on my bench says my imagination can even destroy rifles, I've impressed even my cynical self tonight.

Getting ready for yet more pitchforks.
 
I got on the waiting list for an LRB after giving up on my Springfield M1A and waited about a year before Lee Emerson suggested I talk with Ron Smith. Ron suggested I find a Norinco or Poly Tech receiver and let him build what I wanted on it. This was years before SEI's bar stock receivers hit the market. I followed Ron's advice and had him build two MK14s on heel stamped Norinco receivers. These rifles ran like sewing machines.
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Coming from Ron Smith, that's a reinforcing endorsement of a Norinco receiver as the heart of a build.

It's too bad that a Canadian shop couldn't make and sell a homegrown receiver for all the fans.
 
300Spartans said:
Coming from Ron Smith, that's a reinforcing endorsement of a Norinco receiver as the heart of a build.

It's too bad that a Canadian shop couldn't make and sell a homegrown receiver for all the fans.
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Given that local skilled Canadian craftsmen/women feel justified charging up to 20 dollars for a Mr Potatohead, what the hell would a homegrown receiver cost.
And yes........I appreciate that those potatos don't come out of the field looking like that. T'was just an example of how cost restrictive anything made in North America/Canada is, even without Union interference
 
Lost...again said:
Given that local skilled Canadian craftsmen/women feel justified charging up to 20 dollars for a Mr Potatohead, what the hell would a homegrown receiver cost.
And yes........I appreciate that those potatos don't come out of the field looking like that. T'was just an example of how cost restrictive anything made in North America/Canada is, even without Union interference
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that because everyone want to be a millionair and thinks no matter what they do they should be paid enough to get there.

As for imagined issues.... Just saw another new Norc this week, when a casing was chambered in battery, not only could I see the case, through the gap between the bolt and chamber I could poke it with the tip of a knife. the .308 field gauge rattled in the chamber when I shook the gun, which would indicat the chamber was to big around as well as to long. there was so much space It wouldn't even look the extractor onto the back of the gauge.... But I guess thats good to go with the norc crowed since "excessive head space really isn't a big deal just go fire it and have fun"
 
"...too bad that a Canadian shop couldn't..." Market's too small to justify the cost of tooling up for it. Never mind the cost of the assorted licences.
 
LordEvilPepper said:
that because everyone want to be a millionair and thinks no matter what they do they should be paid enough to get there.

As for imagined issues.... Just saw another new Norc this week, when a casing was chambered in battery, not only could I see the case, through the gap between the bolt and chamber I could poke it with the tip of a knife. the .308 field gauge rattled in the chamber when I shook the gun, which would indicat the chamber was to big around as well as to long. there was so much space It wouldn't even look the extractor onto the back of the gauge.... But I guess thats good to go with the norc crowed since "excessive head space really isn't a big deal just go fire it and have fun"
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I agree 100%.
A NEW NORC is not even on my wish list anymore, they are vastly inferior to the earlier models.
QC has deteriorated to the point of non existant from what I glean from these pages.
Too much of a crap shoot. I don't mind out of index, wobbly sights etc , but cheesy bolts and welded receivers is taking the piss somewhat.
Luckily, I own a 09, with zero issues other than the barrel needs tightening by a gnats nut.
I certainly wouldn't just shoot a new one out of the box, and would advise ANYONE unfamiliar with guns to avoid like the plague.
Used to be worth the money just for the receiver..............but those days are long gone.
I don't recall seeing any body mention the importers, surely they bear some responsibility if they supply a customer with potentially life/limb threatening NEW guns. Perhaps its time to lean on these guys and get them to conduct QC checks on EVERY Norc they sell, just as a goodwill gesture to their customers. It wouldn't take long to do a safety check on the bolt/receiver, and they could keep a lot of the dangerous ones from ever reaching the marketplace.
Sooner or later people are just not going to risk buying a newer norc.at any price

Sorry...........that turned into a bit of a hi-jack/rant :)
 
sunray said:
"...What are the options..." None. M14 receivers are prohibited here. They are considered to be MG's, Stateside, and subject to immediate confiscation by the ATF. The ATF is where the Socialist F**ks got the 'once an MG always an MG' 12(3) nonsense.
Don't think Fulton bothered with getting the export licence. They can sell everything they make at home.
You should be able to put all those parts onto an M305 receiver with a bunch of fitting. Suspect it'd cost more than a whole M305 though.
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There are after market receivers made only semi auto to get around this. Trick is to get them into Canada.;)

Grizz
 
Lost...again said:
I agree 100%.
A NEW NORC is not even on my wish list anymore, they are vastly inferior to the earlier models.
QC has deteriorated to the point of non existant from what I glean from these pages.
Too much of a crap shoot. I don't mind out of index, wobbly sights etc , but cheesy bolts and welded receivers is taking the piss somewhat.
Luckily, I own a 09, with zero issues other than the barrel needs tightening by a gnats nut.
I certainly wouldn't just shoot a new one out of the box, and would advise ANYONE unfamiliar with guns to avoid like the plague.
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I was unaware of degraded quality of Norinco rifle hitting your shores, they must be nearing the bottom of the parts barrel... nearing the end.

I wouldn't just shoot any new rifle out of the box (Springfield M1A included) without first breaking it down, inspecting, cleaning, and greasing it.
The only new rifles I'll shoot right out of the box are those that the builder test fired prior to shipping it to me.
 
"I wouldn't just shoot any new rifle out of the box (Springfield M1A included) without first breaking it down, inspecting, cleaning, and greasing it."

Excellent point Sir, and a practice I follow myself.
Should have mentioned it, but I take it as a given that people would do that anyway :)
Im the same with m/cycles, buy it strip it rebuild it before riding it. Don't want to find out the brakes are ####e or the bearings aren't quite tight etc.

As to the quality of the newer Norcs.............There is some really nasty stuff getting through.
There is always a line to be crossed and I believe the New Norcs have crossed the line :(
 
I'm going to say something I don't like saying, nor have I even been prompted to as this thread is a pretty friendly pro-US products place, but the Chinese receivers are alright. They gave me more work than the LRB or M1A receiver, I've even had M14Doc / 45ACPKING say to me here "Aren't those LRB receivers a joy to work on?" They are easier, and less effort required to fit a bolt and barrel to, in my experience. At the very least there is no set screw, no stock mods to keep the spring guide from letting loose. There are significant spec diversions to be found in Chinese receivers too, though not the norm.

This all said, as it seems this thread grasps, the greatest concern is supporting the good guys for those that still look for where their goods are made and are concerned about it. Having a "Made in USA" M14 is more, and more special to many folks today than it was even 5 years ago.
 
Ardent said:
I'm going to say something I don't like saying, nor have I even been prompted to as this thread is a pretty friendly pro-US products place, but the Chinese receivers are alright. They gave me more work than the LRB or M1A receiver, I've even had M14Doc / 45ACPKING say to me here "Aren't those LRB receivers a joy to work on?" They are easier, and less effort required to fit a bolt and barrel to, in my experience. At the very least there is no set screw, no stock mods to keep the spring guide from letting loose. There are significant spec diversions to be found in Chinese receivers too, though not the norm.

This all said, as it seems this thread grasps, the greatest concern is supporting the good guys for those that still look for where their goods are made and are concerned about it. Having a "Made in USA" M14 is more, and more special to many folks today than it was even 5 years ago.
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1000 % agree
To be blatantly honest, when I'm seeking a receiver for a personal build, as far as chinese receivers go, 2007 and older is all I look at.
I'm sure it's been posted but
7.62mm firearms
LRB
SEI
All make "importable" semi auto only m14 receivers
Springfield armory inc makes M1A receivers but not aware if the sell bare receivers.
There's lots of non chinese options, well, 3 or 4 , for those willing to pursue one.
Armtac or an importer like prophet river would be the route to go. Bring $$$$ :D
 
45ACPKING said:
To be blatantly honest, when I'm seeking a receiver for a personal build, as far as chinese receivers go, 2007 and older is all I look at.
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Noted

My personal builds that I go on about use Chinese receivers that were imported into the US in the 80's.
 
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In the 2012 norc imports, "some" receivers had modifications done at the factory. I won't go into too much detail, but let's say, machining, welding and reparking. Evidence of this can be found on the right side midway down the oprod area and the side and rear of right side of receiver heel. These are the receivers I'd stay miles away from.
 
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