Glock 22 to 9mm conversion bbl

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I have posted before regarding my new Glock 22 RTF Gen4. Well I bought two Lone Wolf 40-9mm conversion bbls and a Lone wolf 40 S&W bbl as well for the Glock 22 (which I have not tried). I finally got to the range and tried the 9mm bbl in the Glock. It has issues. The new Glock 9mm magazine is really hard to load, the spring is crazy hard, will try the loading tool that came with the gun. The brass basically lands on my head or all around me. My 1911s throw the brass 10 feet away so this isn't right. I guess I need a softer return spring in the gun. I used new ammo and reloads FMJ. Both worked great. I shot around 100 rounds this range visit through the Glock in 9mm. I still couldn't hit the broad side of a barn but I wasn't much better with a revolver so I am out of practice, and never was that good. Long story short I think the Glock is OK, I don't love it by a long shot but it is Ok. It doesn't give me wood! I bought the Glock 22 RTF Gen4 as it was cheap, I really wanted a Glock 17 and that is what I should have bought. I just got the latest book on Glock by Patrick Sweeney, I have read a few pages and am looking forward to reading it.

Looking for thoughts regarding the brass landing on my head, return spring change?
 
Depending on velocity or stoutness(is this a word?) of the load my glock 22 will whip brass anywhere from straight sideways to right into my teeth(only on really soft stuff).

Did you change your extractor for 9mm? And lastly where did you order your conversions from as I'd really like one (have a 17 but I CAN'T stand glock frames past gen 2 and would rather not have to switch my springs and firing pin over to practice with my 9mm )
 
My LW 40-9 barrel works great and spits my brass cleanly in my RTF2. It's a gen3 and don't think they make a gen4 RTF but could be wrong. I did buy a lighter 12lb spring just in case. Were you shooting 115gr ammo?
 
Not sure if you caught this on LW website:

LWD 9mm conversion barrels will allow you to shoot 9mm ammunition from your Glock 40 S&W or 357 Sig handgun. These conversion barrels are easy to use and install the same as any other barrel, simply drop it in, no gunsmithing or other modifications are required. We do recommend you use the correct 9mm magazine with these conversion barrels to guarantee reliable feeding.


About 1% of our 9mm conversion barrels are affected by the poor performance of low powered 115 grain ammunition causing a Failure To Eject (FTE). A good example of ammunition that is “most likely to fail” is Winchester White Box (WWB). This rare failure is too low a percentage to make an issue, however it is one we are well aware of. The fix to resolve this issue is quite simple:

1 Clean and lube your slide and barrel.
2 Shoot 1 mag to 1 box of good quality +P or +P+ ammunition through the barrel.
3 Try the FTF ammunition again. If it runs... great! If you experience more failures you will have a couple choices to make:
Fix A Reduce the recoil spring weight to 11 lbs. Cost is about $25 for stainless steel guide rod and reduced power spring. See Guide Rods HERE
Fix B Shoot 124 gr or a better quality 115 gr ammunition exclusively. The FTF 115 gr ammunition you are currently using is no longer a valid option.

What causes this problem? Several issues come into play.
1 The 40 slide and (40 conversion) barrel are thicker than standard 9mm slides and barrels. This extra thickness equates to more weight. The combined extra weight taps the energy of the "weak 115 gr ammunition” to its complete demise. It simply lacks in power and fails to reliably eject the spent round.
2 Every once in awhile a Failure To Feed/Failure To Eject (FTF/FTE) is caused by a fit issue. We resolve fit issues by pumping +P or +P+ ammunition through the gun. This hot ammunition provides extra pressure and the pressure will positively align any and all components. Once they are all aligned there is no longer a fit issue. The FTF/FTE is usually resolved.

FYI: Several manufactures are currently producing low powered 115 gr 9mm loads. This ammunition is also known to produce failures in all standard model Glock 9mm pistols.
 
I just tried the 9mm conversion. Works well. I am using a 9mm mag, but the slide does not lock back when empty. Everything else is good. Accuracy is excellent with a medium power load with the 135gr DRG lead bullet.
 
I have the same LW 40-9 barrel on my G22 Gen 4. No problems with mine as far as ejections go. My G22 has the new 28926 ejector and using the G17 RSA and 9mm Glock mags. Works fine with 115, 124 or 147gr AE or Blazer factory ammo.
 
It turns out my gun is Gen 3 not Gen 4, I bought it new a few months ago. I guess the story on these guns is that they were made for some police forces and they were rejected as being to tough on their hands so they were dumped on the market. I talked to the factory warrantee rep and the issue is likely the cheap white box ammo. Just doesn't have enough beans to do the job. I thought this was happening with the reloads as well but I forget. Just one more pitch in favor of revolvers I guess.
 
JimmieA. said:
It turns out my gun is Gen 3 not Gen 4, I bought it new a few months ago. I guess the story on these guns is that they were made for some police forces and they were rejected as being to tough on their hands so they were dumped on the market. I talked to the factory warrantee rep and the issue is likely the cheap white box ammo. Just doesn't have enough beans to do the job. I thought this was happening with the reloads as well but I forget. Just one more pitch in favor of revolvers I guess.
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Or shoot it in a dedicated 9mm gun like G17 instead. Or drop down to a 12lb recoil spring and maybe a G17 extractor.
 
Trinimon said:
Or shoot it in a dedicated 9mm gun like G17 instead. Or drop down to a 12lb recoil spring and maybe a G17 extractor.
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Since I have at least a 1000 white box 9mm I'll have to shoot them in a reliable gun like my Ruger P89 or the Ruger Blackhawk convertible. I'll load up some 9mm to +P+ specks and see if that works in the Glock. I have to say I was not too impressed with the attitude at the Glock warrantee depo but it is about what you would expect from them I guess. I also have a Lone Wolf .40S&W bbl so it the 9mm doesn't work I still can shoot .40 in the Glock 22. My little Glock venture has been expensive and not that fulfilling so far. Basically the Glock design is from 1980 time frame and they have done little to improve and upgrade it. Maybe the competition will catch up and pass these guys?
 
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I have a gen 3 as well with the lwd 9mm conversion barrel, I didn't change any parts at all, still runs the 40s extractor, 40s recoil springs. U just gotta run American eagle or CCI. Wwb is just way too weak to cycle anything. As for slide not locking back after the last round. Again is due to the wwb ammo. Don't worry about having to change to 9mm extractor and recoil spring, it kinda beat the purpose of buying the conversion barrel.
 
I just took my Glock 22 RTF2 w/ Lone Wolf 9mm barrel and I did have the odd piece of brass fly up and bounce off my hat, it happened every box of 50 it seemed. I was shooting S&B 125 gr. and it ran fantastic, I even used my Glock 22 mags as a test and they feed all rounds without issue.

Cheers!!
 
JimmieA. said:
Basically the Glock design is from 1980 time frame and they have done little to improve and upgrade it. Maybe the competition will catch up and pass these guys?
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They sure are trying and I'm watching closely. I tested many pistols over the last couple of years. Some were good, some were better.
Currently I'm on Walther PPQ and honestly - it's the only pistol so far, that is on pair with my favorite platform.
G17/22 it is. Yes, the design is from the 80's, but Glock is on 4th or 5th generation now, so I simply can't agree that there was nothing done to improve it over the years.
Sure, it's not for everyone. Sure it's ugly. Sure it's not the most accurate pistol out there. Ergonomics while perfect for me are not all that great for many.
No-one so far beat that design in terms of simplicity, availability of parts and value (I have to disclose though that I'm lucky enough to buy anything Glock with discount).
For me, Glock wasn't an obvious choice actually. Took me a few years to figure out that I like it the best. Good luck!
 
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