Can you run a free float hand gaurd on a Norinco upper?

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Just finishing up my first AR build (or so I think!) I was leaning towards a Magpul hand guard. But I really like the looks of the free floating barel. I have a 14.5" norc upper. Somewhere I read the norc sight post is a nightmare to remove. Has anyone done this before and have any advise and/or pictures? This isn't intended as a bench gun nor do I want to run around and shoot. Just casual shooting mostly standing position. I am more after the look of the free float set up, without adding any mall ninja accessories to them.
 
Most people find that is is easier to just dremel off the tower of the front sight post. Thus making a low pro gas block, there have been a bunch of threads about this. I will try to find one if someone doesn't post it first.

I plan on doing this to mine and run the Noveske NSR rail.

Shawn
 
Any pinned fsb is work to get off and back on, barrel will usually get scratched up in the process as well. Any ff handguard will work, but if you don't care then there are 2 piece railed handguards that will give the look and rail options without all the work.
Frontier has them cheap http://frontierfirearms.ca/shooting...quad-rail-hand-guard-for-carbine-size-ar.html

I looked that route but I am not a huge fan of the carbine length. Wish I knew a little more about what to look for before I got the upper.

Most people find that is is easier to just dremel off the tower of the front sight post. Thus making a low pro gas block, there have been a bunch of threads about this. I will try to find one if someone doesn't post it first.

I plan on doing this to mine and run the Noveske NSR rail.

Shawn

I didn't realize you could cut the post down like that, but it makes sense now that its been mentioned. That would be awesome if you shared that!
 
OK so you want a rail that will cover your gas block on your carbine? How much barrel do you want sticking out?
 
OK so you want a rail that will cover your gas block on your carbine? How much barrel do you want sticking out?

Something looking similar to this.
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Yes you can. As mentioned the easiest route will be to dremel of the front sight post, leaving the gas block pinned in place.

I have done it with a DD Lite Rail 12" and several others.

Sosa
 
You can't install a ff tube just by cutting down the fsb because you need to install the new barrel nut. You also need to cut off the delta ring and bayo lug if you are going to install something like a Troy rail that uses the existing barrel nut.
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=352291

So why can you re-use the barrel nut on some and not others? How do you tell the difference when you are trying to pick one? It sucks for me because of my location, I cant think of one store within 500km that stocks anything AR to even look at. So I rely on you guys lol
 
So why can you re-use the barrel nut on some and not others? How do you tell the difference when you are trying to pick one? It sucks for me because of my location, I cant think of one store within 500km that stocks anything AR to even look at. So I rely on you guys lol

It depends, some manufactures use a propratary barrel nut as part of the rail mounting system. Your best bet is to check the parts list of the rail you want and if it includes a barrel nut you will most likely have to remove the gas block.

Which in itself is not a big deal, just a little time with the dremel. Go slow and check your progress often and you will have no issues removing the gas block. And just factor in a new gas block to your build.

The troy alpha rail uses the standard barrel nut:

ht tp://troyind.com/%20/rail-systemsaccessories/rails/ar15m16-rails/free-float-rails/troy-alpha-rail%c2%ae-13%e2%80%b3-no-sight

As well as the battle rail:

ht tp://troyind.com/%20/rail-systemsaccessories/rails/ar15m16-rails/troy-battlerail-bravo-13

Shawn
 
My buddy just removed my front sight yesterday. He did his last month..broke 2 punches..air hammered the pin closet to handguard. When he did mine, first one came out with some "encouragment" and same thing with 2nd pin...broke two punches air, but with a lot of muscle he got it out.

The gun store I got it from said they won't even work on norcs anymore...unless you're willing to pay triple
 
So I picked up a hand guard decided to cut down the sight post. Here's my next stumbling block. How would one get the gas tube out so you an turn the barrel nut?:confused: I am thinking I wished I had planned this out more when I started the build... but I guess we all got to start somewhere.
 
So I picked up a hand guard decided to cut down the sight post. Here's my next stumbling block. How would one get the gas tube out so you an turn the barrel nut?:confused: I am thinking I wished I had planned this out more when I started the build... but I guess we all got to start somewhere.

The gas tube is held in place with a small roll pin horizontally through the front sight block. You can drift it out either way with a 1/16" punch. Then just flex it a little so it clears the FSB and pull it forward to remove it.
 
I put a float tube on my Norc. The pins punched out with a bit of effort. It might help to soak the pins in penetrating oil for a few days, first.

If the pins won't come out, just cut the sight off.
 
But why do you want to remove the barrel nut now? To cut the d-ring off?

I picked up an ATI free float kit on my way up to work, it comes with its own barrel nut that the hand guard screws onto.

I promise I wont bug you guys until I get back next week. This was something I was hoping I could do sitting in my room in the evening but its not looking like it anymore.
 
I did it on my norc 14.5. Use a proper size punch and a large hammer, possibly of the "sledge" variety. You don't need to dremel anything. Don't be afraid to give it a good thrashing, gently taping won't get those pins out!
 
And they are taper pins, go in from right to left, so hammer out from left to right...this is looking down the rifle from butt to muzzle.
 
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