citizen marksmanship program

[the_snowman1]

Hi I know the usa has a program where they sell obsolete military firearms to the public on there website it shows mostly m1 garands and carbines as well as 1917 enfields. Does anyone know if someone has tried to start a program such as this in canada as I know the cf armory near me has current military firearms alongside fals, enfields and ross rifles.

 

[Nabs]

I wish we had something similar to Switzerland.

 

[98/29]

I wish we had something similar to Switzerland.

That would come with mandatory military service, not too sure many people would like that. Specially since we strongly believe in the "who's gonna attack us" motto.

 

[cyclone]

The wanton destruction of Hi-Power pistols and .22 LR cadet Lee-Enfield No. 7's breaks the heart.....

 

[smellie]

When Canada had the Draft, we got the North Woods filled up with people who were escaping from it; I think some of them are still there.

When the US had the Draft, we got thousands of guys who refused Service..... and not all of them because they were cowards. Some of them are still here.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program in the US is popular, strong and growing in part because it is VOLUNTARY.

Try the same thing in Canada and you will get the same RESULT.

Most of the current generation despises the military and regimentation in ANY form; this has been educated into them by our Socialist-dominated educational system.

Make it local and universal and voluntary and POLITICALLY CORRECT (for a change) and we could have a National Militia of a million men.... without taking in a single damned Slacker.

Local Militia Regiments were a strong and powerful social asset, very much admired, in the years prior to the Great War.

It could happen again.

Part of the reason it has not is down to the fact that our "leaders" have developed a most unhealthy paranoia as regards the people whom they RULE. RULING and LEADING are two very different things.

Our Government needs to learn the difference.

 

[LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1]

Problem is, up here the govt. does not really like to sell off firearms of any type to civilians. Even seized firearms like hunting rifles are shipped to the scrapper.

DCRA has always been one of the main regulatory authority for shooting sports in Canada and is sanctioned by the govt if I recall (Could be wrong though). If we worked on it, we could have all the surplus Enfields, Hi-powers and the like transferred to the DCRA, and available to members for sale. If we were really good, we could persuade them to release seized firearms that are not directly involved in a crime as well, but that is a long shot (No pun intended).

It would take a lot of persuading though, we would have to convince the DCRA to implement the program, and then, convince the Govt. that some WWII era bolt action rifles, some hunting rifles as well as the Hi-powers are not a significant threat to the public.

 

[Nelson84]

That would come with mandatory military service, not too sure many people would like that. Specially since we strongly believe in the "who's gonna attack us" motto.

Is some country planning to attack us? There really is only 2 countries that could attack us that are large enough to occupy the whole country and that would be Russia and china. It would be tuff to get their military mobilized and on the ground in Canada. The USA would be up here in a heart beat with guns a blazin anyway. There are to many obsticles and to few roads to attack Canada. Pop one bridge and they would be stopped in there tracks.

We do have a militia the CGN. Armed with our unpinned mags(after the gov't says to unpinned) and our forum to message each other on where the ambush will take place. We are good to go. We have all seen red dawn.

WOLVERINES!!!!

 

[Nabs]

Considering that 3/4 of Canada's population lives within 3-4 hours of the U.S. border, I don't think they would have to occupy the entire country to control it.

I agree with Smellie, I have longed for some sort of militia to be formed in Canada that is voluntary and you would provide your own firearms and clothing. Considering the way the U.S. is going, I think it would be a very wise idea.

 

[enefgee]

We already have such an organization- The Canadian Rangers - but if you live in the city you're SOL. Our politicians don't want people armed, they're frightened that if we found out what they're up to, with our money and our society, there would be real consequences and they aren't the kind of people who are willing to take responsibility for their crimes. That's why it's never been a capital offence to be a crooked politician.

 

[Nelson84]

Considering that 3/4 of Canada's population lives within 3-4 hours of the U.S. border, I don't think they would have to occupy the entire country to control it.

I agree with Smellie, I have longed for some sort of militia to be formed in Canada that is voluntary and you would provide your own firearms and clothing. Considering the way the U.S. is going, I think it would be a very wise idea.

Then we are safe for sure being that close.

 

[Nabs]

Well I personally don't like how we have outsourced most of our defence to the U.S. I'm not saying we shouldn't be allies for mutual gain and benefit, but we need to be able to defend our own borders for a change.

A militia would be a great start on that path and perhaps we can achieve a united Canada in the process.

 

[vermintrex]

There really is only 2 countries that could attack us that are large enough to occupy the whole country and that would be Russia and china.

China will conquer this country economically, and probably the US too, long before military options would ever need to be considered. That's what's so scary, the general populace won't even know there was a war till it's all over and too late.

Pop one bridge and they would be stopped in there tracks.

Pretty sure the Germans sabotaged a few bridges in WW2.....the army engineers say hello. You know, just sayin.

 

[HammerHeade]

Canadian sabotage would involve dumping copious amounts of booze in their water supply.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Well I personally don't like how we have outsourced most of our defence to the U.S. I'm not saying we shouldn't be allies for mutual gain and benefit, but we need to be able to defend our own borders for a change.

A militia would be a great start on that path and perhaps we can achieve a united Canada in the process.

Or the other option is actually join your local Militia unit (aka the Reserves). They provide you with your own clothing, firearms (pretty much all are full auto as well), ammo, and unpinned mags. It is fully voluntary and depending on where you are they are sometimes hurting for new members. The only commitment you would have to provide is parade once a month (as a minimum), a fitness test once a year, a range shoot once a year, and complete your basic training.

I personally like the idea of a CMP type set up for Canada but unfortunately it isn't going to happen. Unlike Canada the US has a massive amount of surplus firearms that are available due to the fact the States supplied a good portion of the world with firearms. At this point the FN C1's have been chopped up or converted to .22, the Lee Enfields have been sold off long ago (excluding a few Lee Enfields held by the Canadian Rangers, and No. 7's from the Cadets). All that leaves is C7's which I can guarantee you the government wouldn't let civilians use (and even then we have given a good portion of them away).

 

[m39a2]

Yep, we can give C-7's to the Afghan army but no Canadian , funny eh?

Scott

 

[the_snowman1]

Well I can tell you I was at minto armories in winnipeg with a friend that's in the military and saw at least 50 ross rifles and many more enfields along side c7 rifles so that's one armory how many more around canada are similar to this. A program such as this wouldn't be that hard to put in place probably the only difference between the us and canadian version of it would be you must have a valid pal to purchese one of these rifles

 

[smellie]

@ Snowman;

Part of the problem, friend, is that there are very few Armouries like Minto and fewer all the time.

We had a Regiment based here, first as a Company, later as a Regiment, from 1885 onward.

Then Pearson decided that the Militia was too big, cost too much, so the Colours were cased and sent to Ottwa and the Armouries bulldozed.

While they were tearing the place down, they found a crate of 1000 rounds of ammo: solid-drawn Canadian-made .577/.450 MH solids. It was sent to Ottawa.

For destruction.

That's The Canadian Way.

Canadians are to be beshat upon and disarmd until there is an Immedite Danger to the Welfare of the Ruling Class. Then alarums are sounded, the Peasants are armed and the Ruling Class ships its stolen gold to Switzerland or the Cayman Islands or Nevis. NATIONAL DEFENCE then proceeds until the threat has passed, when it becomes once again time to disarm the Peasants.

The Canadian Way, of course.

What did you THINK we had, anyway?

A FREE COUNTRY or something?

 

[Ballsofice154]

Sticking my nose in as the young pup here talking with the more experienced folks especially a WW2 veteran now deceased but he was a huge supporter of

civilian shooting clubs up until he could barely see he would be out on the range teaching after his eye sight went he spent more of his time working in a museum

passing on his stories but what utterly p*ssed the living daylights out of him was the fact that all the firearms in our museum had to be made

inoperable/deactivated and now after 30 years of being open we have found that they just need to be bloody inoperable (stupid f**king a**hats!!!). Sorry for

the tangent off the chart but it still would be excellent to see more people out shooting the older and historically significant firearms.