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He likes his $700 AR better. But I guess if I was offered a Lambo for cheap I'd drive a gas guzzling 2 seater V12 beast to work every day just cos I can. Maybe I'll post a kijiji ad and see if some rich wiener has an extra one he doesn't need.

$600? Where did you get that dollar figure?
 
I don't have to qualify my statements ztunelover because I have a higher post count than you.

I didn't ask you to qualify anything, I asked you to quantify your information.

Reliability is like the Mini 14. With good mags they don't quit. They pretty much clean themselves and can go forever without a cleaning or malfunction.

What is this definition of going forever without cleaning or malfunction? No cleaning between 5k rounds? 10k rounds? No malfunction for 10k rounds using standard federal ball ammo?
 
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I didn't ask you to qualify anything, I asked you to quantify your information.

who cares?

What is this definition of going forever without cleaning or malfunction? No cleaning between 5k rounds? 10k rounds? No malfunction for 10k rounds using standard federal ball ammo?


You're trying to think above your IQ again. Time for your meds.

After you have your nap time, tell us about that CZ858 of yours that keeps malfunctioning. How many spare parts kits did it need again? Its a shame you didn't pick a good rifle in the first place.
 
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For me, never clean really means 3 or 4 range visits shooting 100 -200 rounds each time before I tear down, clean and re-lube..

That's all I asked for. Thank you.

So 100-200 rounds per session, up to a 1000 ish so far 0 malfunctions and it has been cleaned once? Either way that's all I asked for. Some data for the op to go by. Incidentally did you use brass cased or steel cased ammo?

Incidentally can you tell us compared to your other firearms, how easy is the takedown/basic field strip? When it comes to field strip nightmares I keep getting a picture of a fnar in my head.

After you have your nap time, tell us about that CZ858 of yours that keeps malfunctioning. How many spare parts kits did it need again? Its a shame you didn't pick a good rifle in the first place.

Funny you should mention that. I have 2 kits and funnily enough I didn't have to use anything in either of them. I even bought some loctite but that was never needed either. Since you really have nothing valid to add I really have nothing left to say to you. Oh and what you meant to say was It's.

Anyways OP for your use, I have 2 cz858s with approximately 2100 rounds down the tube between the pair of them 1700 on the first one and 400 down the second one.
So far neither of them has malfunctioned once.
I used 124gr surplus for most of them, 500 of the rounds on my first one was mfs non corrosive steel cased. the rest was mostly chinese surplus with a bit of czech surplus ammo.
The guns were cleaned every 400-700 rounds. And were shot anywhere from 400-700 rounds per trip.

Again one thing to consider is the rc is investigating the cz, so it may follow the swiss in a complete drought where no one is retailing one anymore. And after that maybe even prohib, so whether that gamble is worth it is up to you. So far both the rifles have proven to be flawless in function mind you the second one almost have no rounds down the tube, the first one isn't that high either. But so far so good.
 
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That's all I asked for. Thank you.

So 100-200 rounds per session, up to a 1000 ish so far 0 malfunctions and it has been cleaned once? Either way that's all I asked for. Some data for the op to go by. Incidentally did you use brass cased or steel cased ammo?

Incidentally can you tell us compared to your other firearms, how easy is the takedown/basic field strip? When it comes to field strip nightmares I keep getting a picture of a fnar in my head.



Funny you should mention that. I have 2 kits and funnily enough I didn't have to use anything in either of them. I even bought some loctite but that was never needed either. Since you really have nothing valid to add I really have nothing left to say to you. Oh and what you meant to say was It's.

Anyways OP for your use, I have 2 cz858s with approximately 2100 rounds down the tube between the pair of them 1700 on the first one and 400 down the second one.
So far neither of them has malfunctioned once.
I used 124gr surplus for most of them, 500 of the rounds on my first one was mfs non corrosive steel cased. the rest was mostly chinese surplus with a bit of czech surplus ammo.
The guns were cleaned every 400-700 rounds. And were shot anywhere from 400-700 rounds per trip.

Again one thing to consider is the rc is investigating the cz, so it may follow the swiss in a complete drought where no one is retailing one anymore. And after that maybe even prohib, so whether that gamble is worth it is up to you. So far both the rifles have proven to be flawless in function mind you the second one almost have no rounds down the tube, the first one isn't that high either. But so far so good.


Why would the OP use your rifles, when he can buy his own? Nobody asked about your crappy CZs that you had to buy spare parts for just to get them working. Apparently they need more work if you're scared to put more than 2100 rds through them. Not a lot of experience to draw on but we all gotta start somewhere right?
 
Why would the OP use your rifles, when he can buy his own? Nobody asked about your crappy CZs that you had to buy spare parts for just to get them working. Apparently they need more work if you're scared to put more than 2100 rds through them. Not a lot of experience to draw on but we all gotta start somewhere right?

I bought spare parts so that it eventually when parts break i have spares at hand to replace them in minutes rather than ship it out and wait for weeks. I didn't ask him to use mine, in case he was interested in purchasing one he has a data point to refer to more than what you have contributed for him to work off. And you are right we gotta start somewhere.

Opinions can differ. Numbers are numbers, they are absolute. i'm not scared of putting more rounds in. I simply don't have any extra money to spend on ammo since I need to get my car ready for next years scca autoslalom regionals. So go on laugh at me for not being as rich as you.
 
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I bought spare parts so that it eventually when parts break i have spares at hand to replace them in minutes rather than ship it out and wait for weeks. I didn't ask him to use mine, in case he was interested in purchasing one he has a data point to refer to more than what you have contributed for him to work off. And you are right we gotta start somewhere.

Opinions can differ. Numbers are numbers, they are absolute. i'm not scared of putting more rounds in. I simply don't have any extra money to spend on ammo since I need to get my car ready for next years scca autoslalom regionals. So go on laugh at me for not being as rich as you.

OK. Hahahahaha.
 
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