I think I worded that one weird! Oops.
600 yard rifle
- Thread starter bearhunter338-06
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The right bullet in the right place will kill animals. Not headstamps, not "energy"....
Choose a bullet with the expansion characteristics you want at the velocity you are going to have, and learn how to place it where you need it. Be that a reticle or turret, doesn't much matter if you can use it properly.
Choose a bullet with the expansion characteristics you want at the velocity you are going to have, and learn how to place it where you need it. Be that a reticle or turret, doesn't much matter if you can use it properly.
Ar180shooter
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I would actually agree with a .338 Lapua. It is an awesome caliber!! PERIOD. However, for the recoil concious... Take a look at the 6.5X.284 Nearly the same as a .300 mag and just a fraction of the punishment. Nice to hear from 'Sunray'?!! Wondering if he's ever launched a bullet at an animal or just plays X box all day.... Do yourself a favour and take all advice with a 'grain of salt'. 99% of gun nutz will offer something useful. I support and appreciate that 99%. It is up to you to 'filter' the other 1%!
Considering some of the advice I see people offering in most forums, I think the X box types account for a lot more than 1%.
Now there is a FACT !
I have a Custom Rem M700 7MM-300 W Bee loaded with Accubonds at 3300 fps + - it will get the job done ! If i CAN do my part ! RJ
BC Bigbore
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You mean a .300 Winchester Magnum has very low recoil? Interesting. The .300 magnums I've shot all seemed to have a LOT more recoil than my 7.4lb .338-06 Model 70. For elk at extreme range (past 500yrds) I'd want a minimum 175gr bullet moving at least 3000fps at the muzzle. I know you aren't a .300Mag fan but it's hard to argue with an accurate .300RUM for that type of chore. In fact, I have a co-worker who sets up in a private land alfalfa field and does that exact thing with his RUM. Has a string of six point elk to back up his ability too.
Just want to take a second to thank 'Sunray' (for the entertainment) Apparently he's been in the 'sun' way too long. Please do some reading (and shooting and hunting...) before you voice opinions based on nothing. Indeed the 'average' hunter would be pushing it at 600yds - but don't assume that many aren't capable. If you need a list of calibers that are also capable.. Please do a little research. The rest of us would appreciate that.
PS: google search: 6.5x.284 You might learn something.
PS: google search: 6.5x.284 You might learn something.
With todays new powders had high BC bullets combined with the new range finders and optics ... 600 yards IS NOT LONG RANGE , I would not even hesitate to take game at 600 yards even in a 15mph cross wind.
If its in your budget buy a Sendero in 7rem mag and a used Night Force nxs 250 and a new Leica 1600B. get a cheap wind meter put in a few months this winter practicing at 500 - 600 yards and go shoot what ever you want next fall.
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If its in your budget buy a Sendero in 7rem mag and a used Night Force nxs 250 and a new Leica 1600B. get a cheap wind meter put in a few months this winter practicing at 500 - 600 yards and go shoot what ever you want next fall.
THE END
Likely to make the top 10 most ignorant posts I've read in a long time. Crawling into sunray territory actually.
A deer can at a whim move a full body length from standing still in the time it takes for your brain to say "pull the trigger" to flight time and arrival even on the RUMs, Edges and STWs. Even with a 3200fps MV and .750 G1 BC a 5mph gust or lag over that distance can mean gutshot. And that's if you are mechanically perfect.
There is a reason F-class and LR bench rest starts at 600yds; its because it is long range, hero. I'm not against those shots and have participated in them, but its haughty ingnorance like above that drives the practical bonkers.
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Thank you all for the input. Their seems to be a lot of you pushing the .264 and .284 calibers. Made be think about the 6.5-06 and the 280 Remington with 140 -150 grain bullets.
I would also like it to be clarified that I will not take a 600 yard shot unless I am 100% sure of myself and can place the shot where it needs to be. I have passed on shots before and will again because I was not comfortable or was unsure of the shot or my rest. I have a few spots (open fields) where a 600 yard shot maybe a possibility.
I would also like it to be clarified that I will not take a 600 yard shot unless I am 100% sure of myself and can place the shot where it needs to be. I have passed on shots before and will again because I was not comfortable or was unsure of the shot or my rest. I have a few spots (open fields) where a 600 yard shot maybe a possibility.
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- Prince Albert, Sk
Then you have half the battle won by knowing already where your 600 yard shots will happen.
Again, my target of choice is a milk jug , set those out at your known distances calibrate your drop , then start practicing for wind.
Once you are hitting them consistently then you know where your limit stops and starts for distance.
Personally , I'd be inclined to go STW just for the cool factor.
Again, my target of choice is a milk jug , set those out at your known distances calibrate your drop , then start practicing for wind.
Once you are hitting them consistently then you know where your limit stops and starts for distance.
Personally , I'd be inclined to go STW just for the cool factor.
BigUglyMan
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I suppose we can all hope to teach an old dog new tricks, but being here since "BC" and having almost 19K posts do you think there's any chance of that happening?
Seeing as moose was one of your long-range target species, the 6.5 offerings would be low on my list.
Burke YOUR kinda bouncing around now - WHERE did the 280 REM come from ? Your kinda all over the map !
LOL RJ
Keep one fact in mind:
With equal energy at the muzzle, heavy and slow will beat light and fast when it comes to bullet drop.
A heavier bullet has more velocity retention AND higher BC than a lighter bullet.
The line where a heavier bullet starts to catch a smaller faster one depends on the caliber
you can say that a rule of thumb is somewhere around 5-600 yards, up until that point
the small and fast bullet has a superior trajectory.
In long range shooting, you want to use the heaviest possible bullet for your twist and caliber that will maintain acceptable accuracy.
I'm guessing that when it comes to long range hunting more factors enters the equation: Lethality, energy, ethics, etc.
No doubt the 375 is capable but man that's a lot of recoil to deal with in a hunting weight rifle. I know how I feel after a dozen rounds off the bench with mine....let alone shooting two or three times that many prone.
