I'm guessing this trigger will be compatible with rem 700 and clones, will this trigger be available on it's own? Sounds like a 2 stage?
Is there any demand for an ALL Canadian made bolt action precision rifle?
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I'm guessing this trigger will be compatible with rem 700 and clones, will this trigger be available on it's own? Sounds like a 2 stage?
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- calgary alberta
Our actions currently employ triggers that fit the Remington 700 that Jewel and Timney make, therefore our trigger will also fit into a 700. We will have 700 specific models that have the built in bolt release as well as 1s that do not that will fit our actions along with others like Defiance, Stiller, BAT etc that have the bolt release on the action rather than operated by a mechanism on the trigger.
So yes it will be available for purchase as an upgrade for a 700 or 700 clone.
These are NOT a 2 stage trigger, they are a 3 lever single stage like a Jewel or Timney in operation, we will be making a variant that is a single set like the old Canjar trigger was where you pushed the trigger shoe forward and the trigger set down to a few ounces of pull with a total trigger movement of about .010. This is different from the European single sets in so far as just the shoe moves, not the entire trigger.
A Canadian made DTA style bullpup bolt action precision rifle would be amazing! I'd be in the market for one of your current offerings as well, but becoming a homeowner is first on the list of priorities right now.
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+1 for the bullpup. This is what allows DTA to command the premium prices they charge for their rifle (and especially the overpriced accessories). There are lots and lots of places to get a 1/2 minute non-bullpup rifle from the US, and the import issue has largely become a non-issue, so that doesn't really add anything new to the equation.
If you built us Canadians an accurate/reliable bullpup for $4500 and don't charge us $300 for a monopod that should not cost more than an Accushot? Well in that case I'd put my money where my mouth is and be your first customer (even as a guinea pig for a prototype). And Canadian-made to boot? Well, you had me at bullpup.....
If you built us Canadians an accurate/reliable bullpup for $4500 and don't charge us $300 for a monopod that should not cost more than an Accushot? Well in that case I'd put my money where my mouth is and be your first customer (even as a guinea pig for a prototype). And Canadian-made to boot? Well, you had me at bullpup.....
What market are you targeting, tactical, hunting or long range, what are the rifles in that market going for ?, there's your answer, the only advantage you will have being "Canadian made" is that it will be slightly easier for Canadians to obtain, at the end of the day you have to make a better product at a reasonable price and supply faster than your competitors, do that and you will sell as many as you can make , if not its a struggle.
Good luck with the endeavor if you decide to go for it.
Good luck with the endeavor if you decide to go for it.
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- St-John's NL
Yes I would be interested
I'd like to say that a 100% Canadian built rifle would be amazing, but the value would have to be there to make it viable. At $5500 it would have to be a red hot smoking precision bench class comp rifle to make sense.
For comparison, I had a Surgeon built 6.5 Creedmoor rifle which was loaded with an Macmillan stock, Jewell Trigger, Krieger Barrel, JEC Brake with all the accurizing work done (blueprinting, etc etc), and that rifle cost < $5500. That rifle could shoot the pips off a set of dice all day long. That's a proven combination that regularly wins competitions.
Being Canadian will give it appeal, but if it doesn't perform like a $5500 rifle, then I doubt there will be much of a market.
For comparison, I had a Surgeon built 6.5 Creedmoor rifle which was loaded with an Macmillan stock, Jewell Trigger, Krieger Barrel, JEC Brake with all the accurizing work done (blueprinting, etc etc), and that rifle cost < $5500. That rifle could shoot the pips off a set of dice all day long. That's a proven combination that regularly wins competitions.
Being Canadian will give it appeal, but if it doesn't perform like a $5500 rifle, then I doubt there will be much of a market.
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Well then if the bar is set that low, we already have a winning combination.
Our actions are superior to what Surgeon builds in many respects. The stock is made EXACTLY with the same materials and methods as McMillan, there are already Canadian barrel makers every bit as good as Krieger, we believe our basic trigger will be at least as good as Jewell, early testing seems to be very positive, the single set we believe will be even better, we already have 1 of the best brakes on the market, have had for years.
So with having built precision rifles for many years that shoot every bit as well and in many cases better than some of the best foreign made rifles in a similar configuration to those we compare to, I think we have a winner then.
Just curious as to why a "custom" action would need to be accurized? I thought having a custom action negated that.
I think you misinterpret my comments as being negative or derogatory. I'm just trying to say a $5500 rifle will need to perform like one if you want to get market traction. If that's the case, then I'd get demo rifles into production ASAP. If you can build a setup that exceeds the benchmark of these foreign manufacturers, you should have bench class competitors lining up at your door, and potentially have a combination that's desired outside our own borders. Plus I'd imagine you'd get more buy-in once people have real world metal to swoon over.Well then if the bar is set that low, we already have a winning combination.
Our actions are superior to what Surgeon builds in many respects. The stock is made EXACTLY with the same materials and methods as McMillan, there are already Canadian barrel makers every bit as good as Krieger, we believe our basic trigger will be at least as good as Jewell, early testing seems to be very positive, the single set we believe will be even better, we already have 1 of the best brakes on the market, have had for years.
So with having built precision rifles for many years that shoot every bit as well and in many cases better than some of the best foreign made rifles in a similar configuration to those we compare to, I think we have a winner then.
Just curious as to why a "custom" action would need to be accurized? I thought having a custom action negated that.
After that, getting it into the hands of someone with proven ability who can run it through it's paces would be a great place to start and get the word out.
As to accurizing, you got me. I just shoot them. That was the marketing BS that I was sold on at the time. I'm just a lowly serviceman...
Plus, as we all know Made in America < Made in Canada
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I think you misinterpret my comments as being negative or derogatory. I'm just trying to say a $5500 rifle will need to perform like one if you want to get market traction. If that's the case, then I'd get demo rifles into production ASAP. If you can build a setup that exceeds the benchmark of these foreign manufacturers, you should have bench class competitors lining up at your door, and potentially have a combination that's desired outside our own borders. Plus I'd imagine you'd get more buy-in once people have real world metal to swoon over.
After that, getting it into the hands of someone with proven ability who can run it through it's paces would be a great place to start and get the word out.
As to accurizing, you got me. I just shoot them. That was the marketing BS that I was sold on at the time. I'm just a lowly serviceman...
Plus, as we all know Made in America < Made in Canada
No I did not take it in any way derogatory and I agree 100% with your comments.
The hardest part as I see it is getting it through the minds of the shooting fraternity that Made In Canada in no way means inferior.
Getting some of the better shooters and competitors to try us will be the biggest task in my mind.
I have owned rifles made by some of the best in the USA over the years and use them as a benchmark to exceed with what we build.
All Canadian and custom made?? I'd be interested. However $5500 is steep for me. Maybe if it was possible to have a sporter version around $2500 give or take? Like the carbon fiber hunter you have a pic of on your site in 300WinMag ??
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did i read BLUEPRINTING and ACCURIZING JOB on a surgeon action ??? you just pay 500$ more then you should have Buddy
i have one and they have installed the Kreiger barrel on it AS IS and it's a awesome shooter. That being said, i will also sell it ON THE SPOT (if i need to) to buy one 100% canadian made by ATR
Keep the good work ATR
did i read BLUEPRINTING and ACCURIZING JOB on a surgeon action ??? you just pay 500$ more then you should have Buddy
i have one and they have installed the Kreiger barrel on it AS IS and it's a awesome shooter. That being said, i will also sell it ON THE SPOT (if i need to) to buy one 100% canadian made by ATR
Keep the good work ATR
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