Hunters who shot at coyotes from helicopter fined

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Hunters who shot at coyotes from helicopter fined
CTV Regina
Published Friday, December 13, 2013 11:30AM CST


Two Saskatchewan hunters who fired shots at coyotes from a helicopter have both been handed hefty fines.

Erick and Jan Alsager of Maidstone were both convicted under the province’s wildlife regulations and were fined a total of $21,000. Erick Alsager was also found guilty of obstructing a peace officer.

In addition to the fines, Jan Alsager was suspended from hunting for two years, while Erick Alsager received a one-year suspension.

The province’s “Turn In Poachers” line received a tip that shots were being fired from a helicopter that was flying southeast of Maidstone in January 2012.

An investigation by conservation officers from Lloydminster determined that the two men had been flying in the helicopter and firing shots at coyotes on the ground.

http://regina.ctvnews.ca/hunters-who-shot-at-coyotes-from-helicopter-fined-1.1591132
 
While that sounds AWESOME - I believe the regs (in AB at least) specifically prohibit hunting from aircraft/helicopter. Not sure if you'd call shooting coyotes 'hunting' (I wouldn't) but there must be something specific prohibiting it.

Again, it would be fun- but if it's illegal, how DUMB do you have to be to try it?
 
While that sounds AWESOME - I believe the regs (in AB at least) specifically prohibit hunting from aircraft/helicopter. Not sure if you'd call shooting coyotes 'hunting' (I wouldn't) but there must be something specific prohibiting it.

Again, it would be fun- but if it's illegal, how DUMB do you have to be to try it?

Hmmm...maybe they had just finished watching "The Thing" with Kurt Russell?
 
Illegal a lot of places. We had a local charged years ago for hunting bear from a small plane.
I did see some video of hog hunting in New Zealand with black rifles from a chopper that looked like awesome fun.
My uncle's cousin also flew chopper for a government wolf program in Northern Alberta or NWT (?). Can't remember which. They were trying to depopulate.
 
Doesn't an aircraft count as a motor vehicle? Federal law covers it if that is the case. Must be unloaded.
Even if it doesn't, I'd be a little surprised if SK hunting regs allow hunting from a vehicle, airborne or otherwise.
 
Here's the rest of the story. ;) More disturbing to me is they are operators of a Hunt farm.



Erick Alsagar and his son Jan had their defense case shot down at the North Battleford provincial court on Wednesday when they were fined a total of $21,000 for using an aircraft to hunt wildlife.

The family runs a game farm near Maidstone, Saskatchewan, and Erick said he doesn’t believe the coyotes should constitute as wildlife because they were on his land.

“We raise our own deer and one of our biggest problems is predators – mainly coyotes,” said Erick. “We were on our property protecting our livestock.”

He added that his farm spans 17 miles, which is about 10,000 acres, and he uses a helicopter to monitor his herd.

“It’s not like we were out for the pleasure of flying around the country and shooting big game,” said Erick. “I’m on my farm, looking after my animals the way I have done for the last 35 years.”

But according to Kevin Callele, executive director of the Ministry of Environment’s compliance and field services branch, coyotes are considered wildlife.

It is also illegal and extremely dangerous to use any vehicle for hunting purposes, he said.

“When you’re flying at very low levels, and especially when you’re paying attention to wildlife on the ground, you’re not watching the contours,” said Callele.

The ministry was alerted to this incident in January of 2012 when a concerned member of the public called the Turn In Poachers toll-free line and reported hearing shots fired out of the aircraft.

In addition to the fine, the two men were given hunting suspensions, and Erick was sentenced to a one-year probationary period for obstructing a peace officer during the investigation.

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Thats too bad about the fine, they weren't hunting they were trying to protect/care for his private property....

On a side note...10,000 acre property, wow............that's a huge chuck of land to own and hunt on.
 
but its ok for fish & wildlife to hunt or should i say slaughter thousands of deer out of a helicopter when this CWD cult was happening?
just to be clear on this im not saying the Alsagar's were right to do this! but noone should be above the law this is a equal country yet i hope....
 
They should appeal to a higher court...if they were shooting coyotes from the ground to protect there livestock, wouldn't have been a problem.
 
I believe the courts should have made a FAR BIGGER example out of these guys ! this is a complete disgrace to the hunting community ! ...

These guys should have be Rewarded for there efforts and given extra deer tags for the following season ... a new presedence should be set and the laws should be changed to encourage the hunting of predators from aircraft !
 
This area is where CWD seemed to start in Sask. It was this area where 8300 farmed elk were slaughtered at a cost of $43,000,000.00 to the taxpayer.

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Maidstone area elk farmer Rick Alsager immediately appealed a judge?s Jan. 20 decision, which accumulated $69,000 in fines relating to incidents on his farm dating back to December 2001.

?To me the fine is just exorbitant and absolutely outrageous,? said the 56-year-old Alsager, who expects to be back in front of a judge within a month?s time. ?The fines were blown out of proportion and they don?t reflect upon the issue that was at hand.?

Alsager declined to go into detail on what he felt the real issue was, fearing further comment could jeopardize his appeal, but said his days as an elk farmer have come and gone regardless of the appeal?s outcome. Alsager is appealing charges of movement of animals without a permit, breach of quarantine orders and obstruction of inspectors.

In the spring of 2001, Alsager?s Idanell Korner Ranch fell victim to chronic wasting disease after he voluntarily submitted a deceased and clinically-ill animal for testing.

?It was devastating because with the policy in place we knew we were going to lose our herd,? said Alsager, who had spent a majority of his adult life building his herd up to roughly 1,000-head.

All the animals that were in contact with the infected animal and also the animals that were previously sold and may have been exposed to the animal were destroyed. The mandatory depopulation phase turned up two more non-clinical CWD infected elk causing Alsager?s operation to reel in dismay over the past four years.

Alsager?s troubles mounted in December of 2001 when he was accused of purchasing 36 elk and moving them onto his quarantined farm.

?At the time he moved the animals his premise was still considered infected and when you are dealing with a disease control eradication program you are not allowed to move animals on to or off of a premise that has been declared infected,? said Dr. Allan Klemmer, inspection manager for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) in Saskatchewan.

?It could have potentially exposed those 36 animals to CWD. Once the 36 elk were brought onto his premise, we had to quarantine those animals for 36 months because once an animal has been exposed to the CWD agent we know they can come down with the disease for up to 33 months.?

The quarantine status has since been lifted, but with less than 100 animals remaining on the Idanell Korner Ranch, Alsager has decided game farming is no longer a viable option.

?Without the right to breed animals you have no cash flow,? he said, of the three-year quarantine placed on his farm. ?Even now there are no sales for them ? period. It is either give them away or shoot and bury them.?


Alsager c. Canada (Agriculture and Agri-Food), 2011 FC 1071 (2011) Cour Fédérale

Docket Number: P-3-10

Parts: Alsager c. Canada (Agriculture and Agri-Food)

Reporting Judge: The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell, Deputy Assessor

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Extract


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Alsager c. Canada (Agriculture and Agri-Food), 2011 FC 1071 (2011)


Federal Court - Alsager v. Canada (Agriculture and Agri-Food)

Source: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2011/2011fc1071/2011fc1071.html Health of Animals Act

Registrar of Appeals


Loi sur la santé des animaux

Greffier des appels


Date: 20110914

Docket: P-3-10

Citation: 2011 FC 1071

Ottawa, Ontario , September 14, 2011

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell, Deputy Assessor

BETWEEN:

RICK ALSAGER



Appellant

(or Mr. Alsager)

and


THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND AGRI-FOOD CANADA



Respondent





REASONS FOR JUDGMENT AND JUDGMENT

INTRODUCTION

[1] This is an appeal by Mr. Rick Alsager (Mr. Alsager or the Appellant) pursuant to section 56(1) of the Health of Animals Act , S.C. 1990, c. 21 (Act) of the final compensation awards (Decision) for the Appellant’s depopulated elk herd made in accordance with the valuation appraisal of Dr. Betty Althouse (Dr. Althouse), Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) Evaluation Committee Chair, dated May 6, 2010, (Evaluation Report). Mr. Alsager believes that Dr. Althouse and CFIA undervalued many of the animals in his elk herd that was depopulated by May 27, 2010. The animals were destroyed pursuant to a Destruction Order issued by the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (Minister) following a positive result of chronic wasting disease (CWD) confirmed by the National Laboratory in Ottawa of one of Mr. Alsager’s elk. The Minister has paid compensation to Mr. Alsager in accordance with the Decision but Mr. Alsager believes that some of his animals were unreasonably undervalued and he is appealing the amount of the assessment.

BACKGROUND

[2] The Appellant owns and operates a hunt ranch near Maidstone , Saskatchewan. Customers attend the Appellant’s ranch and pay to experience a trophy hunt in natural surroundings.

[3] On April 16, 2010 it was confirmed that one of the Appellant’s elk had tested positive for CWD, a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy that causes a progressive neurological disease in elk and other cervidae. CWD is generally believed to be caused by abnormal proteins called prions that affect the animal’s central nervous system. It is inevitably fatal.

[4] CWD is a reportable disease under the Act and the Reportable Diseases Regulations , SOR/91-2.

[5] Also on April 16, 2010, a Notice of Quarantine was issued by the CFIA to the Appellant pursuant to section 6 of the Health of Animals Regulations C.R.C., c. 296 that placed all cervids on certain parcels of the Appellant’s property under quarantine.

[6] On April 23, 2010, the CFIA issued a Notice of Requirement to Dispose to the Appellant pursuant to subsection 48(1) of the Act stating that destruction would occur by May 31, 2010.

[7] The Minister engaged the Appellant for the purposes of valuing his animals for purposes of compensation under the Compensation for Destroyed Animals Regulations , SOR/2000-233.

[8] An evaluation team approach was used which included: Dr. Althouse, chairperson on behalf of the CFIA; Roger Holland, an industry representative appointed by the Appellant; and Dr. Robert Hope, a representative of the CFIA.

[9] On April 27, 2010, a compensation meeting (Compensation Meeting) was held in North Battleford where the Appellant, his sons Jan and Lane, Roger Holland, Dr. Hope and Dr. Althouse were in attendance. Dr. Althouse was the chairperson for the evaluation with the appropriate delegated authority. General matters of valuation were discussed at the meeting and it was determined that Roger Holland and Dr. Hope would each produce his own report on the valuation of the elk. At the time of the Compensation Meeting, inventories of the elk were not available and so the number of elk to be depopulated and valued was estimated for the purposes of the reports.

[10] For bull elk, antlers are the basis for the Safari Club International scoring system (SCI) used by the industry to value male elk. The bull elk in this case had not yet fully grown their antlers for the 2010 season; antlers will generally grow in full in the autumn. Without the antlers to score and with little supporting documentation respecting the value of the animals, valuation was difficult in this case.

[11] Roger Holland and Dr. Holt completed their respective reports and submitted them to Dr. Althouse for consideration. On May 5, 2010 Dr. Althouse completed her Evaluation Report on a preliminary basis based on the estimation of inventory.

[12] By May 27, 2010, the Minister had depopulated the Appellant’s elk. The fallow deer, owned by the Appellant’s son, Lane Alsager, were also depopulated. The white-tail deer and the mul...
 
Back in the 80's alsagers used to own a bison farm out there that went tits up, they also owned the gang ranch here in bc west of Clinton. Over 1 million acres of licenced land and hundreds of thousands owned. They shipped the bison out here to the gang ranch, that didn't work out for them though. My dad has pictures of himself surrounded by a herd of a few hundred.
They ran the ranch I to the ground, lost something like 1200 head of cattle over one winter to starvation. The gang went into for closure and was sold to some people from the Middle East... (Who subsequently have been named as alquaida financial supporters.)
The alsagers returned back to Saskatchewan.


Edit... Actually my memory is a bit fuzzy, that corner ranch may have been his brothers ranch throughout all these years, and that may be where the bison originated. I've had to push out all these old memories and information to make room for newer, more important stuff...
 
Did one of the owners of the Gang Ranch drive around Kamloops in a democrat in his underwear with a sign saying the bank took the shirt off his back? Also wrote a book on the financial dealing that was a bit of a problem for the bank and they went to court to get selling it illegal. If so a guy's wife I know is a relative of these people and the story of all of this is beyond interesting.
 
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